Ciarra Robinson
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She's like, I'm just here to tell you about your future. I'm going to read your palm. I don't know what you're telling me.
I need to go to the hospital.
He's like, and that's enough of being vulnerable.
Y'all be fucking.
You got that nervous cotton mouth.
No, no. A hundred percent.
What was the craziest thing you did?
Yes. Thanks for finally having me.
But you were memorable, right? You were memorable, and that's what's important. There were a lot of great, great dancers who you can't remember.
I don't think so.
They're under 12 months, actually. Under 13 months. We have a June and a July baby.
And everybody's looking at me like I knew that this was going to happen. Above me.
Immediately in the bathroom.
And then I was crying because I was like... Day three had to be postponed for like another year and a half, you know. So...
yeah exactly i wanted to say i had that when we just moved to malibu it was the it was in the heels of i think one of the first miscarriages and at that point it was already too too many and we just moved to get the hell away from whatever the space area we wanted you know the ocean i mean How lucky we are to even talk about moving to having moved to Malibu at some point.
Anyway, it was a fantastic experience. But I remember first week we got there. I'm in the park with Shai and this lady comes up and she just started talking and she had two kids and she said the same thing. She's like, when, you know, we were trying to.
actively trying to have them, didn't work, didn't work, didn't work, IVF, didn't work, decided screw it, went to a vacation and then after that got pregnant back to back. And it seems like it was our moment, although that lady is no one that I knew, we've never seen her again, but it felt that way. But then again, The second part that you guys just said, it has nothing to do with any of this.
It's about you and when you get over it. And it's so hard to witness and see from the side that realization that I can't, I'm completely powerless. Everybody around me is also powerless. I can't get anybody to help me with this because it's just about how strong the person is. And so all the kudos to all the ladies that go through all this stuff because it's literally just you by yourself.
We're also part of a generation that started to be happy couples themselves, and a lot of our friends are getting pregnant and having babies, and we're celebrating them quietly, not celebrating at home. And so it's also like it's not a pat on the back. It's more like that's what couples have to overcome. It may seem like, well, what do you have to worry about? Look at your life. It's beautiful.
It's sparkly and stuff. But it's the emotional, you know, behind closed doors. Nobody really knows where you go to. I want to say what kept us together. I think it more so exposed us as a couple that is a couple for the right reasons. We didn't just get together emotionally. And I think that's the difficulty nowadays is that people get together for the beautiful times or in the beautiful moments.
We never, you know, it's rare that you have a near-death experience and then you're like, oh my God, this is my person, right? Usually it's in a beautiful setting. You guys have a gorgeous date and fall in love. When you experience these type of things is when you find out if it's really the person for you.
And I think that we found out about each other a lot, but most importantly, I found out about me towards Peter. Exactly what my feelings are, exactly how I feel about you know, my role for the rest of our life together. This is a without a doubt person that I want to spend that lifetime with. And so it made me realize a lot of things about myself.
It was very hard for me to be nurturing because I'm like, that's tough. Kind of like, get up, let's go. Let's just 10 more pushups. You'll be fine. You know what I mean? Pat on the back.
But, but it's the, it's the, it's the reality. It's real love. I just want to point it out. If it's real, it'll survive all of this ups and downs.
Um, it's not a gamble. We're not big. I mean, look at,
more for the casino guy i'm not again but this is our stomping grounds peter and i share a lot of lot of fun time in vegas like just we used to work here on and off you know dance shows and he was choreographing the red and stuff like that so shout out win there you go i heard there's some sort of like uh like edm festival going on there right now is that true or do you guys hear anything or we wouldn't know we're not gonna i went to that before though that
Do you guys follow the casting of Dancing with the Stars?
Robert Irwin is a frontrunner. Right. I'm going to say it right now.
No. Yes. A little bit.
I'm going to say, I'm going to say the downfall here is that this is like, he's a, he's top. He's in the final. He's in the final. But if he walks out, and just flatlines into the, you know?
Yes. It's a perfect character to do that. I think he already has the foundation. I'm just saying. I think he's taken some dance lessons. If he didn't, I would be surprised and shocked. Like, bro, you already own it. Go take some cha-cha lessons.
But she was also there. I'm just saying practice. Like, yes, you have some physical, you know, I did that.
Do I have a choice? It's on the giant screen TV every time I pass by.
No, immediately.
I keep up. I'm feeding number two, Rio, and he's watching a little bit, and I'm watching a little bit. It's crazy, but if he hooks me, then I come in. I'm like, I can't believe she said that. Three episodes ago, she said some stuff.
But with that show specifically, I'm like, I'm just having so many, you know, it's so intriguing just because it's from, you know, it's about religion-based, you know what I mean? It's just, it's not competing with me.
That's why, like, probably... 47 of those mormon wives definitely have some kind of dance background so i wouldn't be surprised that there's some you know you don't like her character but you're gonna see some dancing you know what i mean so i think there's gonna be that type of casting uh peter who's who's uh who's your favorite and least least favorite of uh the group of women
No, I'm just saying reality TV. I will always hold my head on one thing.
sentence i was told that very late in the game yeah if i was said that in my mid to late 2000s my career may have been different but i was told like yeah you know it's about the edit but if you didn't say it we don't have it to use you know so it was like man that's so correct if you don't say if you say it leaving it up to the editors to pick and choose what they want you to be represented by i'm like well why don't you choose you know
30 hours of me being nice you chose me being this way so i i sympathize with the types that oh you know why are they portraying you as a villain you're so nice in person i'm like nick you know me i'm very nice in person but i've also said it i did say it on tv anyway i feel that way about those type of characters
That is so... That's just so messed up.
Like, but those are, those are the types, you know, when they have to scream it out about themselves. chances are you don't feel that way by yourself either, you know?
Yeah. You gotta keep your, keep your, you gotta keep it real.
It's also part of the cast. They also feel some kind of way about these. So this is where I come in and, and she's, she's like after 11 decade plus years of us together. Yeah. She's like, you know what, stay away. Because if I come in, then I'm like, wait a minute, did she really mean it? Or is this like a ploy? Or is this a plot? Like you said, chess checkers.
Exactly, yes. And so I try not to ruin it for her. But I come in, I'm like, but you know, the casting. The casting. Somebody casted these people. 2025, we know how to do that professionally. There's a line of people that I will look bad on TV, whatever that means. I'll play the villain. I'll be the blah, blah, blah. I'll say outrageous things because it seems like it's easy.
But I think it's a strategic sort of casting where anybody can be
Oh my gosh. Isn't that funny how you have ironic and not funny? I don't know what the vernacular is. You turn one wrong and you out wrong it with something. you know, and it perpetuates the TV and the series. I mean, that's, that's the way you do it. You know, right type of cast that gives you everything. I just, you know, what, what is, what is to come with these characters?
Like what's the next step for them?
I mean, isn't it crazy how so much edgy television is coming out of Mormon Utah?
And it's also the same taboo, but maybe you're right because they keep it such a taboo to talk about growing up. It's like, yeah, there's an age that you, and then with that one person chosen for the rest of your life, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then to your point, maybe you just feel free and they go off. I just, I don't know. I find it. It's fascinating.
It's fascinating because you can, you can take the, you can take the devout route and you can take that through line. You can take the other route and like the promiscuous part of it and through line. And then you can pick, And choose again, going back to the other point, you can pick this type of sound effect or this type of, what is this, on the fly interview and insert it.
And we're that airworm hunter every day. That is chaos that I cannot. No, I think I've seen Jax.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Is it good?
It's great to watch a game.
But they go on to problems. They talk about problems. Oh. It's not... yo.
I think we, uh, fully enjoying the parenting at the moment. I have my vodka, I'm very proud of. I don't know how pluggy I can get with this, but you know, it's an incredible product that I'm very, very proud of. It's, you know, an alcohol industry is very difficult, and especially nowadays. to have something that's moving in a positive direction.
It's a, you know, big pat on the back, watching Peta with, you know, her skincare line and, you know, what she's doing with that company is incredible. We're just enjoying every day, you know, and then see what happens next. Season 35 of Dancing with the Stars is coming up. 34, actually. 34, we got that wrong. Yeah. It seems like 147, so, you know. But, yeah, see what happens with that.
I mean, I'll take it. I'll take it. You know, it was the only right. You know what it takes. Yeah. You know, you've been in the trenches. You've been with a nice one. I'm going to try. Wait, actually, I don't know.
You did a good job. You're memorable.
I would take great care of Nelly. I would take great care of Nelly.
It was only Nicole Kidman gays? There were no straight people?
The fans.
Yeah.
Of lying.
And that's what's going on. I feel like you all don't want to let go of.
It's an ugly outfit. It's an ugly outfit. It's ugly and it's. Weren't you like a film major? Yeah. Don't you know that they sometimes film shoot scenes that never make it in the movies? He's attacking your education.
That is true. I'm just saying as an accounting major who doesn't know shit about shit.
It'll be on streaming in four weeks. Yeah.
A natural verbal reaction to the moment.
I'll tell you what, though. I will not be going to see Wicked in the theater.
I felt this moment.
Okay, but question. And that's fine. That would annoy the fuck out of me. I would sit next to someone and they were whispering.
No. Could you imagine?
What would Ariana say at Chicago? Ariana, right. She'd appreciate it.
Is Justin Baldoni going to ruin that one, too?
Why do people pick on her?
There's a lot of hate Anne Hathaway conversations out there.
That was also 10 years ago.
What would you call this? I don't doubt when Angie talks about her mother around her dad that that content makes her sad. But I think that she...
leaned into her feelings and got herself to cry in that moment while sitting in front of her dad on camera on film and and she tried to cry she leaned into her emotions what would you call that fake or real i think it's real if it's your emotions if you're leaning into the emotion you're feeling it's different if you're like i don't feel this but i'm gonna fake cry for the camera okay fine but i think she tried to cry i don't think so
As someone who has had to deal with this burden my whole life, I promise you.
There's a scene in my season of The Bachelor, I don't know if I ever said this publicly out loud, but there was a moment in the middle of the season where I was going to quit the show.
I don't know. Breaking news. Breaking news. And I walked into a room with Vanessa and Rachel and Corinne and Raven and... yell i think was still there i was sobbing sobbing sobbing he's a performer and were you leaning into that oh my god yes i walked out of the room and i said how was that what's the score of the packer bears game shut up oh my
I'm sorry.
I have no faith. I have absolutely no faith.
Yeah. And I was sad. I was stressed. I felt bad. I just leaned into the emotions. But yeah, they were fake tears. And then all the ladies were just crying because I was crying.
But yeah, it was all bullshit.
Real tears. I was sobbing.
No.
No, but I faked that scene. Wow. You were method acting. I was. I was method acting.
Thank you. All I'm saying, I'm just saying, I feel like we all have a tier and I think these women are professionals and I just think Angie knew the assignment.
And I just think she was like, let's figure out how to get some tears. I don't, you know, so like fake crying is real crying, but it's not like organic crying. It wasn't organic. That's what I was trying to say.
I could be wrong.
And maybe I'm projecting. Maybe I'm projecting because I was, I was not organic crying either. That's what I want to call it. Are not organic crying. No GMOs. No. It was a Thursday night. It was a vegan cry. It was a vegan cry. Packers were playing the Bears on Thursday night football. They're wearing their all whites. And I believe that.
Well, but are we going to get the John and Vinny's or are we going to get the Shake Shack? How do they decide?
And yeah, they were. Yeah, they beat they beat the Bears that night and they had all their running backs were hurt. I remember this. This is when I was supposed to be really crying and sad because I was going to quit the show. And then they had to film this whole scene with Chris Harrison the next day.
Wait. And I was supposed to be still unsure if I was going to quit. I was like, guys, we're milking this. I'm not going anywhere.
No. I was like, wait, wait.
Between so many women. This wasn't working for me. And I wasn't sure if I could keep going. And I wasn't sure if my wife was in the room. Deep down, you knew she wasn't. Yeah. Deep down.
Are they giving us the option? Because we will be flying Delta War.
I feel like that was Leo knowing. We've been to some, is it fundraisers or foundations? Galas. And yeah, there's an auction usually of some kind. And there is definitely people who bid on items knowing they're not going to get it, but they want to be part of the action.
I mean, listen, Leo clearly has it.
Yeah, literally. Yeah, it's a marinara sauce. I like barbecue sauce.
I aspire to be able to waste my money on such things.
I need some orange juice. Well. That's my snobby.
Once you go cold pressed.
If that's what tickles your fancy.
I don't know if it's from California.
You couldn't put an orange on a plane and then squeeze that orange?
Well, it is. I didn't say it was locally squeezed.
It just feels awkward. I want plastic straws. I'm just going to put it out there.
Not plastic.
Is it vegan?
Which is another name for fake leather coat.
We love it when corporate America takes advantage of moral virtue. Yeah.
I'm guessing Gap did not, you can't fully verify in Google if this coat was made without inconveniencing any animals.
An egg white base. Mm-hmm.
yeah or milk based well isn't it mayonnaise you don't like alfredo fuck that and you worked at Olive Garden that wasn't a prerequisite it wasn't like eat this alfredo sauce right now yeah you're not touring all of Italy but isn't most of their dishes like although that was my first Olive Garden dish the tour yeah yikes you don't even know what the tour is don't you like get all the get a little slice of lasagna which I've never really liked lasagna I think chicken parm you do get a chicken parm and a pasta of some kind no you get an alfredo yuck
It's not vegan? Well, I think we're saying the same thing. What's happening? Well, you're saying not every faux leather is vegan, and I'm saying yes, it is.
i'm saying they decided to market maybe they're just calling it vegan leather because it's not real leather and they're hoping for all the suckers who will feel better about it being vegan that they're going to buy it because it's vegan i agree with this yeah yeah i think but also leather isn't vegan based on what like there's some ingredients and like let's say like glue or whatever that involves animal product i'd be willing to bet that's just fake leather and that's why they're calling it vegan leather
Well, there you go. I'm proven wrong. But I bet they could have used glue. I bet you're right, and they're still calling it vegan leather.
Oh, thank God.
I can sleep.
Yeah, and I hate that for him. I hate that he had to feel like he had to do that.
Also, I hate that he had to waste any emotional or mental energy while fighting cancer, dealing with internet trolls who are so bored with their lives they need to shit on this moment.
Toys R Us, when I was a kid, was this mythical place that my parents couldn't afford anything. Same.
Expensive.
Great value.
Subway and a Walmart? Yeah.
That's where you went when you were depressed?
The Subway at a Walmart or a Starbucks at a Target?
You mean to tell me the hot dog from the stadium is in better condition than the 7-Eleven?
She would.
Have we heard anything from Dorit or Dorit fans about our confession?
Alfredo and lasagna and chicken parm.
I definitely substituted the, why did I ever get the tour of Italy? Why did you?
If Shannon gets another DUI, I will be the end of Team Shannon. We should have made some Team Shannon t-shirts that we wore.
It matters. When we cover these shows, we should start making the merch of our respective positions. Okay. Like, you should get a Team Meredith.
And we both started freaking out.
And it was so sad. Just so she could say she sold out.
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You're like, get rid of it.
Welcome to the show, Jeff.
Good to be with you.
This will be in the episode for sure. Okay. Jeff Lewis, everybody.
I've been waiting to have you on my show for a while.
No, no, it's the same way. Don't apologize at all. I'm quite particular which other ones I do just because it's kind of like, well, yeah, I don't want to say this shit on my show.
Every once in a while. Lala, I think I'm going to do Lala soon. you know oh yeah she's great she reached out and i was like i love okay fine i'll do lalas did it take lisa barlow calling us the podcast for you to come on
I don't. I invited us to go to dinner with Todd and Bronwyn.
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No.
I don't know. We had her in here last week, and she spoke very highly of her husband. She seemed very in love.
My only criticism of Jen Pedantry. Am I saying her last name right? That's fine. Jen from OC. Is that she's just a bad judge of character with some people. She seems lovely. She seems like a really nice, sweet, cool hang. It's just like, you know.
I have no idea. But I really appreciate the context around Jen because we haven't met her and it's always nice to hear people who have met the people we sometimes talk about on this show.
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Why didn't you?
yeah i don't know we were talking about this today i you know and apparently he's so traumatized by shannon almost hitting his daughter allegedly allegedly this ring camera videos possibly get over what shannon did i see yeah the videos the videos the videos they kept talking about the videos and i'm like i don't give a fuck what's on the video i don't
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I want to be friends with all of them. I don't know about all of them, but I'm friends with a few. But they seem like they're just not messy enough and they're just not problematic.
As a person, Lisa Barlow, not my fave.
i believe honestly that happens all the time yeah every time you meet someone you're like she pitched herself to come on the show and then was like but i don't want to talk about the show we're like well then we don't want you what she can talk about tequila yeah exactly she'll talk about the show she talked about the show with us didn't she yeah at length at length she'll talk about the show that's funny i would have her on well lisa you're welcome to come
Goodbye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you see its potential. Paint us the picture of Roni at its peak.
We're done with the fall leaves. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So many great shows that we get to talk about later this episode, especially with Jeff. We got the reunion part three. That was a very giving reunion part three for OC. It was definitely the fuck Alexis episode.
We need your money. All of us.
Rebecca doesn't need her money.
She says $100 million business. What more?
Yeah.
She's dead. That's what I feel like that last scene. That last scene was an Alexis burial scene.
Oh, you think Lisa's divisive? It's never Lisa's fault. I've never seen Lisa ever been like- She has an accountability issue, for sure. Like, Brawn, it's just like, she shows up and she's kind of like, yeah, whatever, fuck it, I say shit. Like, it's never Lisa's fault. Ever. Ever.
And the whole, like, I don't fly coach is not impressive.
Well, you don't love it, but Lisa puts on this performance as if it's beneath her and she won't possibly do it and it all seems to be an act to project her wealth.
But I feel like, what would you say to me saying Bryn seems like the only one working? Is she working? Well, it seems like, I don't know. She is stirring the pot. It seems like she is trying to create the drama that we're all missing. Oh, I thought you were talking about working, like.
You're right, because it seems like you're right. You're right about all those things about Brynn. She's doing all these things. And I just feel like, you know, it's like an improv. It's like you make a joke and then you want your partner to yes and you. And like, no one's yes anding Brynn, you know, because she's messy and everyone's just kind of like, yeah. That's why I'm not getting rid of her.
That was a housewife execution.
Her storyline is done.
It feels like episode part three was like the death of Alexis Bolino on Bravo.
Shannon posted her settlement. It sounds like she paid $60,000. Honestly, money well spent.
Doesn't Bravo do bonuses or whatever? Bravo. I hope Bravo. I hope Shannon. Shannon earned her bonus. Absolutely earned this bonus.
I do feel like every adult at some point in their life enters in like a curmudgeony stage where you're just kind of a, you get grumpy.
Yeah. And then you realize that maybe I could be a little less grumpy.
No, it should be more than $60,000.
They should add an additional, they should line item it, calling it for the emotional, caring this episode. Season. Thank you, John.
blow up like I used to I think it shows growth you know I think it's kind of weird when we see I think TV they made TV different back in the early 2000s you know and if you're going to come on TV now and act the same way it's kind of like well I will say too I you know I worry because I'm good friends with Patty Stanger
I didn't film with them there.
But I do remember filming with Patty and apologizing to a lot of people I did nothing to for Patty.
Her back does hurt. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. She was a goddamn delight.
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Don't touch my phone. I'm in the business of defending Whitney usually over Meredith, but she did grab her phone.
Or the episode before that. It felt like Tamara, especially given her performance all season long, that she just was almost decided she wasn't going to participate at the reunion. And was almost kind of like, didn't know what to say. So she said nothing at all. She was pretty mute the whole reunion.
Heather's miscast on OC. You think? It's hard for me to watch someone... tour their mansion, talk about their money, and then have Heather listen to Jen talk about not being able to afford rent. It just makes Heather look bad. And I don't expect Heather to pay for Jen's rent, but it's like, you shouldn't be hanging out with poor people if you're so rich.
If you grabbed my phone like that, I definitely would have been like... I wouldn't have reacted like Meredith, but... If someone's dangling it in your face...
You're just an entertainer.
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I just have a small crush on her. She's so hot.
I haven't gotten that far in the fantasy.
Yeah. Cause I was like, yeah, I probably did. I'm kind of impressed by her response. Cause a lot of people in her position, I would have been like, did I? And like played dumb. Like they don't remember.
No, it was more like, Bronwyn, I'm finally ready to apologize for some of the things that I have acknowledged, some of which I disagree. Yeah.
Do you think Kyle's going to be more open about her life this season? Are we going to have to still do the whole like... You're not a lesbian? Yeah.
And do you know for sure if they are listening to your show? Because I find what happens more often than not is you will say, I don't know, something kind of benign. Maybe there's a small criticism baked in with a bunch of praise, but some annoying fan who wants to protect whoever the fuck, let's say it's Dorit in this case, will then DM Dorit and say, do you know what Jeff Lewis said about me?
Right.
You said it with love also. Also, no, but no, I don't even think he said it.
Mary, as the president of the Meredith fan club.
What did you think of her hair?
I just want to care.
You know what I'm saying? That's the thing. It's a projection of something else.
44.
Babe, you forgot to ask Jeff about the advice we need for the house. Oh yeah. So I took you off course.
A new build.
It was a new remodel like five, six years ago.
And by heinous, I mean, I like it. Okay.
I think y'all are too.
It's called Iconic or Doing Too Much? Question mark.
Let's rewind a little bit. Let's just kind of talk about the fact that, what's his name? Jared Osmond, Slendon and Mary Krasby's DMs.
We didn't get enough of Boz. How did she pronounce her name? They went straight to nickname.
That's a self-respect.
Brittany Bateman needing everything to be about her at dinner. She's so behind on that. I'm behind on all that. I'm sorry. Dorit smoking a cigarette driving through Bel Air.
Or the fact that his only job that we're actually aware of is that he's the manager of Boy George.
Bozeman. I didn't like that they waited like half the episode to introduce her.
I want to see her dating. I want to see her. And if like they, I mean, if they need someone with a reality TV experience or anything. I'm a little bit.
Every scene, did you know PK's an alcoholic?
Who stayed the same. Do you think?
Well, I actually, that's what I thought. Well, two things. One, they're just bullies to Dorit. They're mean. They're mean.
that being said they're mean to my girl no I'm just saying but she definitely in classic Dorit style like didn't do the assignment and did her own fashion fashion fashion thing I don't think any of them really did the assignment isn't it like a Salvador Dali it wasn't they all were just
Babe, there you are. We talked about this on ViFi Plus last week. Shake Shack is now on Delta flights.
But they're mean.
I think you're absolutely right about the plane ticket home. It's just more like, I just don't mind brawling.
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You might know him.
I know Brad, yeah. And I was mesmerized by one of those dancers because he was a terrible dancer. And I was just like, why are you up there? You're a terrible dancer. And then like two weeks later, he was my barista. And I was just like, I know you, but you don't know that I saw you at this dancer.
Number one.
Yeah, anytime they catch a ball, ask, did they get both feet down? Number two, don't you think the touchback rule when they fumble is stupid?
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Look at her feet next time. Okay, I will. Look at her feet. I will ask her to take her shoes off. Jeff, it's been so much fun to have you.
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Except that this sucks for me.
What are you reading this from?
Kind of stole Denali's idea.
Oh, maybe you stole Carmen's idea.
Because I'm not a sauce girly. Oh, they're definitely not. We talked about this. The team feels like they're going to somehow give us the packets of sauce on the side. And as someone who has been, as I said, oppressed by the people who put sauces on burgers, I know they're not going to.
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Those are just some words you should throw out. God, I hate those pre-snap penalties.
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What's one more?
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uh anyways lots to get into with mr jeff lewis later this episode mary can you explain to me i like there's something everyone's talking about nicole kidman accused of lying about some meme about tom cruise i forgot they were married they've been divorced for so long they've had like a couple marriages in between i mean tom cruise had a whole katie holmes kid he did in between so what why do people care
There is this very famous- And also, what's the movie, the car movie? Days of Thunder. Yeah, Days of Thunder.
Well, I didn't know we got hate until you told me to ignore it.
And this photo is a photo of her.
It's going to come with a, it's going to come with a, it's going to come with a soggy. What are they going to do? Question. What are they going to do about the soggy lettuce and the soggy tomato?
Like she was tired of orgasming.
Orgasming. Words are hard.
He also said in a text that we have read in one of these complaints where she tried to he was like, always give always feel free to let me know on stuff. And she was like, I just wasn't sure.
He definitely hasn't fired them, that's for sure. Yeah. Why fire him now? You still need him. Because so much of what they talked about was about not...
What's also crazy is that he went to leave L.A. and called the paparazzi to make sure they shot him.
Also, also, the fact that he's talking to TMZ, the amount of celebrities who just, like, don't, they're like, I'm not, like, come on. I'm with my family. I'm dealing with this big thing. I'm just trying to get on an airplane. Like, I'm not about to talk. And the fact that he's like, hey, man, how are you? Yeah, man, I'm with my family.
It's like...
I mean, they come up with a huge camera and they're like, hey, hey, what's going on? Talk about this, talk about that. And it's like, oh my God, I just got to get out of here.
I love how there's like two men in this. But they made sure to get him in the shot.
But we also know that he admitted to, in a text that we read from Justin Baldoni, of having this plan to go to the class or go to the session where he could blame all of this on his ADD or ADHD or neurodivergency.
I mean, it's the classic saying, actions speak louder than words. And clearly, like, his actions are not.
Also, that photo of them supposedly in the basement during the It Ends With Us, they sure looked fucking happy to be in the basement. They're all like, woo!
So happy. If you're shunned and sent to the basement, wouldn't you be like,
He's in a lot of stuff, yeah.
Also, like, I know a lot of people have been in my stuff being like, I hope you give the same amount of, like, attention to Justin's lawsuit. And it's like, we read it, and then we're like, this is bullshit, and we give our opinion on this show, and our opinion is we're Team Blake. So...
How did TMZ know that he was taking that 530 Delta flight to wherever the fuck he's going?
It's right before you go into TSA.
Oh. Yeah, he was flying Delta. Yeah. Okay. But it's like, how did that TMZ guy know that? Why wouldn't he think he's flying American?
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TikTok is back.
Well, it was gone for eight hours.
Meredith Doxbury. Is that her last name? Doxbury? Who like went viral for doing so much makeup and she was like rapping and it was so cool. She was like, I wiped off half of those layers.
Because they were like, it's going away. Let me just like give my last confession of like this is what.
I mean, it is also very sad because I do know it was one of the most like women dominated industries. I know a lot of women who... Oh, TikTok? Oh, yeah. I mean, providing for their family, like the amount of money that these women were able to make off of this app. I mean, it...
I guess it did.
I don't know. I mean, I think it's very sad that all of these people who were making money and providing for their families lost that in seconds. Obviously, now it is back. So it's a little like... But I just wish that people would put this amount of energy into child trafficking. So like, come on.
Like, world hunger. It's like we could do something if we all just cared about this equally as much as we cared about TikTok.
Right? Something. Right?
But anyway, so it's back. It's back.
I think this is more of like a fans thing and less of Leighton and Adam want her to be the number one super pop star.
I haven't talked to her.
Yeah. So I don't know. But I just think this is more of like, you know, clearly this was Heidi and Spencer. It was led by Spencer. It was Spencer, you know, and I think this is more so fans being like, well, hey, Leighton Meester also has a couple songs out. We should also try to get her up there as well.
A recent study reveals that people who walk faster may be less happy in life. Yeah. I walk real fast. I walk so slow. This is old news. I'm so happy.
Did they break up or was he hacked? So true. I mean that was the strangest breakup post I've ever seen in my life.
I think it's in the South too.
Yeah, that's in the South too. Yeah, just like slow.
just slow yeah like if we're in an airport and our thing like we're gonna like they're gonna shut the doors on us Nick is there and I I'm coming just go make him wait for me and what pisses me off even more is like the constant look back to see just like how far I'm like don't look at me I'm coming wait Nick do you ever do like the backwards tour guide walk because you're walking so fast that you have to like talk to like someone but also walk your normal speed he did that to me while we were roller skating oh
Y'all know that Nick has not. I'm holding hands. Y'all know that Nick has not had sugar coffee or weed at all in two weeks.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, but I am so proud of him because for someone who like dabbled in extracurricular activities for so long and then to just like cut cold turkey and honestly hasn't like he hasn't been like, oh, I wish I like I haven't heard a peep out of him. It's like he hasn't even thought about it. I did see him yesterday open up what used to be a drawer of extracurricular activities.
It just kind of was like looking.
A paperclip?
I see you.
Yeah.
But he is in Times Square.
Well, after that conversation he had with Molly, I would hope that his girlfriend would be like, um... Yeah, after that scene with Molly, because I literally said to Natalie, they make sense.
So she said, I expect you to do everything, pay for everything. And he was like, yikes, I don't know how I feel about that. And she was like, well, then maybe we should break up.
He invited me out. So if you're inviting me somewhere, you better fucking pay.
No, but it is like, hey, I want you to come to Australia with me. And it's like, okay. You want me to buy that ticket to Australia? Like, you want me to come with you and you want me to also pay how many dollars for a flight?
Yeah, I don't I don't agree with that mindset. I know that is a lot of people in the South, especially his mindset. It's a very like old way of thinking of like man takes care of the family and like for sure.
But also they're not a family yet. Like they've been dating for just dating.
It was never going to last, but you know, I mean, again, in this episode of Southern charm, he was like,
all up on Somali calling her I mean honking at her from the side and he's like you look good I'm gonna pull over and come talk to you and also like you need to give yourself so much more credit I mean look at you wow it's just you're and then he's like yeah so me and Sienna we're actually doing really good okay he's like I'm gonna listen to classical music for you
I thought I missed something. We need a little spice up this party.
Hold my drink. And then Craig came to quote unquote save the day. It was hot. It did look wonderful. It did look wonderful. Him like lifting her out of the pool. And still diving into the pool and then being like, I got this.
Actually, did you see the cameraman? It looked like the cameraman close to the pool, like tried to put down the camera and then saw Craig.
For sure, Taylor.
Well, also she didn't say who in the group said not to trust her. We never saw that on camera.
Gaston T. No, no, no. Who is? Andrew.
The immediate he's come on to set. We've never seen him before. And the throat grab that he did on Sally for a kiss.
I don't because I don't respect the way that she's going about this whole Taylor Gaston thing for her to sit there and be like, he's part of my past. I deserve a right to talk about him. Sure. Yeah, you do.
But you're also you're in a relationship and now he's in a relationship and you're only doing this to like have some sort of storyline to like have something to share with the other women to like talk about. That's the only reason you're doing this. Like if if this like relationship was something that like you really felt like I don't know. It just seems like it's very performative to me.
And like you're in this new relationship. So why are you like talking about him? And then to be like, he fucking called me and told me to keep his name. Well, yeah, I would, too.
Well, I think I think it was been proven to like Craig embellishes and he like likes to add on to a story here and there. And like on Watch What Happens Live, they're like, you're a bit of a liar. And he was like, me? What? And then they played like several instances where he lied. And it's like, OK, he's kind of messy like that.
And then to use the photo from The Bachelor which that was like the craziest fucked up season ending known to mankind.
So do we even know if they're back in the U.S.?
It was so fucked the way it happened. It's like...
And I bet at that round table, because obviously that came out of nowhere. So were you just kind of like, what do I even say? How do I defend myself right now?
Okay.
I think what's even more interesting is that the day before he posted the breakup, he congratulated Lindsay Arnold on her boob job. Oh.
Definitely. I stand by you too. It was stupid.
Which is so interesting because I feel like we've never seen them have any sort of like... We know they were partners when he was on Dancing with the Stars.
Like, she would be like, oh, yeah, I feel the same way.
Well, she's been kind of doing a like, come with me as I get this boob job. And it's been very like, she's been very open with everyone. But I just feel like they haven't shared any sort of like relationship on social media. Or maybe I just haven't been following along. But it's like...
They're like, you're loud. You're like, who said?
Okay.
Did you watch Ion sob at home about you leaving? Like, were you, like, did you watch that with the rest of us? Or did you know that she was that upset?
I think it was more so the comment. The comment was, L-M-A-O-O, congrats with two balloons, which the two balloons emoji choice was interesting. Could have put, you know, I feel like equally as worse, watermelons, milk jugs. Milk jugs.
First, just to be like, well, at least we got the game players out. Now all we have to deal with is Housewives and Bachelors.
Yep.
Well, I think that's what they realized, obviously with this last, I called that shit episode. Him. Yeah. Them being like, how does he a hundred percent? No.
Stay out of the comment.
I feel like that wasn't a place for him.
You're good at untying knots.
Do you feel like they just didn't have anyone else? Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
So they were together when he did this. Supposedly. I mean, it was before the breakup. I don't know. I mean, I feel like I'd definitely be like, that was unnecessary. It's just weird. Maybe a text. You could have texted her and been like, hey. Hey, mama.
Rob. He went back to Rob when everyone was doing Sierra.
Yeah.
He was so sweaty wearing that great t-shirt.
He's like a little glitchy.
I think that... You've gotten first on Bartender.
You won Worst Cooks.
Did you talk to anyone before you went and filmed from last season?
it's giving fuck boy it yeah there's there's boundaries yeah natalie you solved it he was hacked he was hacked it's the only explanation for all of this this is crazy behavior for someone who's like seemingly just been like unproblematic chill and chill but it's been four days and he hasn't said anything maybe exactly the hacker he got access is like i need to relax that was a lot yeah could you imagine though if that is the case and it's like
Would that have given you a shield or like immediate?
Right.
So I mean, Robin has the worst read on everyone.
But I feel like they've just created such a relationship outside of The Bachelor. And I feel like they've tried to push themselves away from the franchise as much as possible.
What was that phone call like with Sarah when you left?
Who knows her better?
I miss you.
You know where we live.
It's okay.
We're so excited to have you. We're such big fans.
Are you the type of actor that likes to watch your work back? Or are you like, I don't care. I don't need to see it. I don't want to watch myself.
That's probably smart. I bet it would be easy to be a bit of a perfectionist in that, you know, if you keep watching playbacks and you're like, I can do it better than that. I can do it better.
Do you feel like White Lotus has changed the way that you look or view traveling? Do you have any sort of like, ooh, what if?
They don't go to any events. They don't talk about it at all. I feel like neither of them hang out with anyone from the show. And so it's so weird for him to use that photo.
Really quickly, do you think Nick looks like Theo James?
Right?
I know. He's turning red.
Oh.
I feel like Heather never has good ideas with games at these.
It was brilliant.
I mean, Brittany's being like, I want to invite Bronwyn instead of Mary. And she's like, I did a search. Yeah. You searched meanest thing about like, this is the meanest thing I've said about you.
I mean, I think that's why it was so easy for her to so easily flip the script onto Angie and be like, see, Angie, what if I would have said this about your husband? And it's like, you're doing the exact same thing that Whitney just did to you.
Like that's a crazy sentence.
Yeah. It wasn't like a what if like someone was like, I saw Sean at the grocery store. She's okay.
She played by the rules.
Angie's to Bronwyn was also about her marriage and was also super mean. The one foot in the grave, one foot on a banana peel.
No, yeah, that was really, really bad. I felt so bad. But the way that Bronwyn was able to be like, okay, like if this, she's like, you don't have to explain yourself if that's how you felt in that moment. That's how you felt. Like, this is what this game is. We're squashing it. We're burning it. We're good.
The amount of people I have commenting on my posts being like hashtag Team Justin, A, I'm like, I know these are those bots.
So I wonder if they like gave, if producers gave the women like, here's your person, search that in your phone.
Yeah. And she's like, because the rest of it is on record in my videos. If they would have given me Bronwyn.
Yeah. I think it's from that original call where Whitney called in the car with Justin and he said she owns a tequila company.
Yes, it is not. It's confirmed.
They kept calling him a podcaster. He's a blogger. He's a Bravo blogger.
Which makes sense. I mean, it's like, how are you going to get mad at me for talking to him? But you did the same thing.
And Heather, thank God Heather is like, you, I can't believe you're talking to this person. Like you have to stop talking to this person. Block this person. Whitney, block this person. Like them just being like allowing these people to have access to you. Clearly their agenda is to like get clout and have their own storyline on their own platforms. And so it's like...
Oh, she absolutely did.
Also, Whitney did tell us at Kathy Hilton's party the reason that she reached out to Monica was because she heard Monica on this podcast say she had proof that all of these women had reached out to reality volunteers.
She wanted the proof. She wanted the timeline. Which does make sense because she was like you and even Mary, like I'm glad Mary kind of chimed in and stuck up for her being like, you women are mean. And when y'all are mean, like y'all are vicious and you do put people in a corner to where they are like, holy fuck, what do I have to do to like prove myself? Right.
She's like, I woke up at 4 a.m. with a scratched cornea.
The eight Lisa lunch. Phenomenal. Angie was the best Lisa for sure, in my opinion. I think Whitney was the best Lisa. Whitney just did that to piss her off.
And like, you know, that's, I mean, and clearly it worked because she stood up, she walked away, she was like, I have to let her see these tags hanging off my clothes.
i don't know he doesn't need this shit like and it hasn't been great for him no so he's still showing up the moment between angie and mary we need to talk about because i was so upset that mary just like immediately switched up on her and was like lisa i'm done with angie like didn't even want to have a conversation with her was just like fuck this i'm done and then to like hear her open up at the table like both of them crying and it was like you realized in that moment that when she like wasn't
It's like Justin's saying, you know, Ryan Reynolds called me a sexual predator. Like, what the heck? And it's like, well, why is he calling you a sexual predator? Like, maybe we should focus on that instead of like feeling bad that he said that.
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It's really sweet. They're really in our nesting era right now. We're just we're just we're nesting all over. But we are nesting for sure.
What do you mean?
Oops. I just feel like we're staying at home a lot.
Chilling.
Did River not feel like your first barn in that moment?
Did you feel like you birthed Leo?
Oh. Yeah. She had to want to pop out. Were there any fun celebrity sightings? I know Justin Bieber went.
Patrick Schwarzenegger was there supporting his co-star. Lisa. Is she a DJ?
Like, God, leaving this person alone.
Yeah.
First of all, they're fun. Second of all, you know, she recently had a child. Not sure what her like drinking situation is. She definitely could just be not drinking while everyone else is having fun. Uh,
The way people just harass this woman is un-fucking-believable. It's crazy. Just leave her alone. You know what we also need? Amy Lou Wood, her teeth. Leave her alone. I've been saying that.
Mary, what's with this lazy writing from your SNL people?
Yeah.
They're basically played the Radcliffe family or whatever. Radcliffe.
The portrayal of Amy Lou Wood is basically what you would say if you went to a fourth grader and said, hey, can you mimic this person? And you showed a picture, you showed a scene from Amy and White Lotus. They did what a fourth grader would do, where they'd
I'm your host, Nick, and we didn't go to Coachella this weekend.
Have we figured out whether Amy Lou Wood and Walton are still... Not confirmed. Is there still drama going on there? Have we figured that out?
yeah i don't think yeah i really i really i really didn't we were it's it was interesting because we were there last year we were we brought the whole team right we took a little team field trip we uh we got to meet uh swartz's new girlfriend are they still hanging out what's are they together as of a couple months ago yeah they were still together okay all right yeah we interviewed swartz and his new girlfriend yeah it was it was a fun it was a fun weekend but yeah it was like
Yeah, well, people eat cockroaches. They'll find a way to like elevate it and overcharge you.
Well, we have a jam-packed episode lined up for you. Moments from now, Lisa Trager will be joining us, the very hilarious comedian that has a hilarious special out on Netflix called Night Owl Plush. She's also just a big Bravo superfan. She'll be with us shortly to talk all things comedy and Bravo Plus.
We took Jordan Davis's recommendation and jumped into Million Dollar Secret over the weekend, streaming now on Netflix. Lots of fun. Very definitely very like traders coded. And we have the winner Cara with us to talk about that experience, what it was like to win the million dollars and survive the gauntlet. Fun fact, she works for In-N-Out.
Like what a great story for having someone who went from like working in fast food to becoming a millionaire. Like a lot of fun.
Fun.
We love that. Anyways, well, we have Cara with us from Million Dollar Secret. That's all coming up shortly. But up next, we have Liza Traeger.
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it's really crazy to think how like much change how much changes in a year truly how much like just thinking about this time last year and and we even had like we had river so it wasn't like oh my god like now we have a child but like river that's when she learned i remember it made me think about that's when she we discovered the pack and play remember not the pack and play it was the kick and play what's the difference fisher price where she laid on her back and she could kick the piano yeah that was game changing that was game changing
Lisa, how are you? We're so excited to have you.
Are you arguing with my audience?
Well, thanks for, honestly, thanks for the engagement.
I really appreciate it. I wanted to start, Liza, by letting you know that I too also am truly obsessed with pressure washing, rug cleaning content, and hoof cleaning content. Two of my absolute favorites on the internet. I felt very seen watching your special last night. It really just, I Has that been in your heart for a long time? How long have you been a member of these clubs?
It's been nice to have the Nanette by my side because when I go to bed, I still feel like I'm sleeping next to my baby daughter because I get to listen to her sleep through the Nanette, check on her, get updates of when she woke up, when she fell back to sleep. It's absolutely incredible.
Has she commented on the Photoshop or is she just kind of out there pretending everything's fine?
She was promoting the show I did with her.
No, it was like, yeah, it was like Patty was out there promoting it. And I'm just like, what is she doing? And then finally, yeah, Andy asked her about it. It was like a totally different person.
But Pat, when I promote, when I posted for it, I posted the photo and then Patty DM me and she told me that CW corporate wanted me to delete that photo and put it up because it wasn't like the one I posted, quote unquote, wasn't approved by corporate. And I definitely did not believe her. So I just left.
The network wants a Photoshop version that doesn't look anything like you. Like, I don't know about that, Patty.
She was fully, fully committed to it. So are you watching a little summer house right now?
We need to get Jesse on and just break down each minute of these 37 minutes. Like, well, what was going on in minute six? Like, cause you can't, you know, like at that point you're still watching. You're just looking.
I think he's just kind of trying out what it feels like to have a girlfriend. He just fought cancer. I just feel like Jesse gets a free pass for at least a year or two.
But she also really wants it too, you know?
I really appreciated the whole meeting the parents bit because I think... Meeting someone's parents is the most overrated milestone in an early relationship that everyone freaks out about and acts like it's the biggest deal in the world. And I kind of love that Lexi was just like, in somewhat fairness to Jesse, minus the fact that he also beat cancer, which I kind of give him a pass.
But she's just like, I want to try to make this man my boyfriend. I want to make this like former fuck boy. I want to I want to lock him up and I'm going to I'm going to insist that I meet his parents. She kind of own that was like of her doing. Jesse was like, this is way faster than I would introduce anyone to my parents. But like whatever she wants to.
So like, I guess it's just like, sure, I can meet her, introduce her to my parents because it really doesn't mean anything. But people always freak out about the milestones of meeting parents. I just kind of loved it. It kind of showed just how like unserious it is, even for a guy who even says that like if he had it his way, he would have waited much longer.
But she was like, yeah, I guess if you really want to, we can go ahead and meet Terry and Jill. Now he's having a coughing attack. So we're just going to let her deal with that.
Which is more weird, that she wanted to meet the parents or that Jesse... Yeah.
It was actually like a non thing, but like, I don't know. I was, I kind of loved it.
It's definitely not the same. Yeah. I don't, I don't have 45 minutes just to sit there and wait for that sweet release to kick in. I don't like.
And you really don't know it's kicked in till like after you're kind of like, you know?
And it took you 20 more minutes to realize that you've been high for 20 minutes.
Yeah, I'm going to be honest. I'm thinking now, I'm pretty sure I've definitely never given that any thought.
Amanda gives huge pothead.
I said I would love Amanda. You're listening and you feel judged.
You know, listen, it was also the same episode where she constantly just reminded us that between her and Craig, she makes way, way, way more money than him. So she was just like, I don't even care if I get a stain. I'm whatever. I'm wearing Prada. I'll buy it again. I make more money than Craig. It's fine.
I'm definitely up there just recording, not really thinking about the type of song that
Lisa, what are they saying about Paige in that context? Like, she needs to go back to Craig because, like, she won't be able to take care of herself? Or what are they saying?
I still don't think Craig needed to defend her during one of those rumors, but she definitely does make way more money than him.
Well, yeah, they're both definitely trying to win the breakup that they both told us was totally amicable and very chill. And I remember being like, I don't know. I feel like it's going to get messy. And it did. It was fun.
I really appreciate Lindsay because I, it felt a bit performative in a sense, but like, honestly, to me, it's just like, put this woman on Roni. Like, I think Lindsay knew she's just like, I've been hanging out in this bedroom while people go out every fucking night. I need to get in some of this action. I'm protecting my piece too much. I'll just, you know what?
I'm going to fucking just make Carl's life a living hell for one more night. And like, I think she absolutely knew, but it was an amazing performance and it was really quite lovely. And, And it really, honestly, it made me miss Lindsay this whole season because she's been really chilling. She really can deliver at a moment's notice.
What if he topped it off by calling you ma'am?
What if it's just like the entrance, like, you know, when the artist comes out for the first time?
Did you see the Kyle Richards and Teddy Mellencamp video over the weekend that like she got into a fight with a dog walker and she's like, it looks like almost like Kyle instigated it. Can someone show?
Do you think when she threw off whatever she threw off, that was the moment Kyle called her ma'am?
I hope they would let her go.
Still not here. No.
100.
100 times. I'm not even going to name the airline because it's not even the airline's fault. And we got to we were checking in. And if you fly with like an infant under two, they just like you have to just call them and be like, hey, I got a infant under two. Here's their birthday. You know, they're our child. And they're like, great. You're ready to go.
And we didn't do that when we booked the flight. So a couple of times we've done this before. You go up to the front desk. You're like, hi, we have our child is confirming just at Amman. And this person, this lady was just like, well, can I see a birth certificate? We're like, excuse me? And they're like, yeah, no, we're going to need a birth certificate.
And we were just like kind of startled. And like our flight was like, you know, we had like an hour to go. So a little panicked. And she's like, yeah, I'm just going to need to see something. I'm like, we've flown with her for like several times. We've never been asked for this.
And kind of in a panic, I'm scrolling through my phone and I'm looking at like literally delivery photos of like Natalie and River.
Because all I'm thinking is like, I'm certainly, we need to get home. Certainly not going to leave my kid. And this person is literally pretending. What was crazy is we finally figured out that she had no idea what she was talking about. And she's just making up documents that she thought we should have. And then finally, I literally showed her a photo of Natalie in the hospital bed holding River.
She wanted you to increase that FOMO, you know?
She's like, oh, okay. She's like, well, you really should. And I'm like, yeah, I really don't think we need this. And she's like, well, you really should just bring some extra documentation just in case. Basically, she was like, just in case you meet someone like me. who is just going to randomly ask for documents that you don't need. And then she's like, you never know who you could trust.
As if she just got done watching some kind of dark web documentary on child trafficking. She definitely had just got done watching that, was making sure that our child was ours. But it was just kind of freaky to think about how this person who's working the front counter at the airline... was just making up random rules for the airline.
Like in terms of like whether they could allow an infant child on the flight or not. It was kind of slightly terrifying. And we literally had to show her a photo of Natalie in a hospital bed to get our daughter on an airline. It was crazy.
Yeah. And sandwiched in between shot records. Yeah.
Did you guys get the coffee table? I go, no. It's almost like we didn't actually buy it, but still gave you money. We still don't have it.
Are you watching Housewives of Atlanta?
Where do you stand on the nudes?
And then when they, when they showed the footage of the original, like accusation of like the claim that Brent like made the threat, like it honestly was way more watered down than I anticipated. Yeah. Like, I don't know what you thought, but she was like, when she's like, well, I have whips, I have pistols. She didn't even say gun. She said pistols.
And then afterwards, I'm pretty sure I heard like Kenya in the background explaining to someone that like pistols means the same as guns as if like, even in that moment, she was like, wait, did you hear what she said? And like, she said pistols as if it was like, I guess maybe she technically shouldn't have said that, but I don't know.
It really kind of gave me it gave me the same energy of Ben Stiller on Meet the Parents when he's saying the bomb, the bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. Like it was like, is this really a threat or is this he is she saying something she probably shouldn't have said she probably should apologize for? Like it wasn't like, I'm going to kill you. I have a gun.
You better not be back when I get here. I'm going to blow you away. That's the energy Kenya is acting like, you know, Britt threw her way. And it was just like kind of a nothing statement. And then she pulls out the poster boards. It was it was so dark.
Yeah. And then we're finding out that like from this episode, it was photos when Britt refers to herself as a teenager. And then I think Portia is the one now claiming that's when she was underage. It's unclear if that's true. Now, who's making that? Justin, can you catch us up here? Who's making the claim that someone else from the cast sourced these photos?
Well, what do you mean by it's a loaded term? It's pornographic content and it was used in a form of revenge.
Yeah, but even when Britt was saying how she, like, you know, when she was younger, she did some, like, OnlyFan content or she... She was, like, a cam girl. Webcam stuff. Cam girl, yeah. Even if she, like...
Again, let's say if she was an OnlyFans model for a period of time and then decided not to do it anymore, just because it's out there doesn't allow someone to go out there and then try to weaponize it against you in a public forum and shame you and try to embarrass you and ruin your reputation amongst your peers.
Just because you agreed to be an OnlyFans model for a period of time, that doesn't make it okay. King is out there acting like the world agrees that like somehow like this is a wrong for her to do. But she just shows to put it out there and it's like fair game, which is like bonkers.
That's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me is this like the whole printing out on the poster board, bringing the poster board to the event space that they had. It is it is very hard to believe that no one saw these posters or no one was like, hey, what are these things that these props that you're bringing?
That's very hard to believe that no one saw those that that's the part that's missing for me.
If Bravo is wrong in this story, maybe so. And maybe there's things we haven't learned. But the way Kenya is acting is like, if Bravo's wrong, then that somehow makes her look a little better. I don't see that. I think she can be both completely wrong And if Bravo in any way is complicit or there's a producer who like, you know, should be fired or something like that.
I don't think that in any way lets Kenya off the hook.
Did you enjoy your time with West on Watch What Happens Live?
I'm guessing you were team Sierra last season.
He's still on the payroll?
I don't think they've been live for a long time.
They're live where they have like a live studio audience live. You know, it's always like, it always feels live.
Yeah, he was a college football player.
I mean, in what way? I don't like have. I don't know.
Yes, no?
I mean, I got to meet him a long time ago. I was on Watch What Happens Live for the first time when I was The Bachelor, which was really a cool moment. And so like, you know, I'm a big fan of his. I look up to him as someone who's very good at his job, like doing what we do here. But like when we see each other, he says hi. But that's, you know, that's the extent of our relationship.
I wish we were best friends, but that's, you know, hasn't happened.
I just want to know what... I think he's got a wife. I think he's got a wife. And I think his wife was just like... I think she did something that irritated her.
Yeah, I wish you knew some. Because, like, yeah. We don't know any more than anyone else.
Yeah. You have your special out Night Owl streaming now on Netflix. It's hilarious. It's a lot of fun. Everyone should check it out. Can you plug anything else that you want to put out there?
Thank you for trolling in ours. We appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Lisa. Am I saying it right, Lisa? You are, you are, you are. Thank God. Nailed it. Lisa, it's been so much fun. Please come back anytime you're in LA. We love your takes, love your special, and always great to have a Bravo super fan join us anytime.
Not that we're shocked, but Liza, a ton of fun. Love her. We need to get her back on more and more, especially as Bravo continues.
There you go. With that intuition, do you think you can compete with Kara?
You should not tell a single truth about your background. The only thing that you have to be careful about is getting caught in the lie. That's the only thing that you have to... Right, you have to keep track of your lies. Well, anyways, we do have Cara, the winner of Million Dollar Secret out on Netflix. She is with us. She just won a million dollars.
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Cara, congratulations on winning a million dollars. So exciting.
Those things usually come fast, right? And the wires, I don't know.
What a cool show. We were actually, we were interviewing Jordan Davis, country music star last week. And he was like, we were like, what are you watching? And he's like, I'm super in to the million dollar secret. We're like, what is this? He's like, it sounds a lot like traders. And we spent all weekend binging it. We're like, we need to get Cara on the show. She won. I'm like, what?
So thanks for coming on such short notice. We're so excited to have you.
How did you get on the show in the first place?
That's incredible. And did you have any idea? Like, I mean, like I know you mentioned because it sounds like you got asked to maybe do some like, you know, relationship or dating, you know, type shows. And like you said, you were married. But like how much about the show did you know before you said yes?
It seemed like a lot of your peers underestimated you early. You know, maybe that was the edit. I don't know. But you were pretty quiet, you know, the first couple episodes watching it back. Did you feel like that was more like an edit and just like them kind of telling a story?
Or was that going on in reality where it seemed like your peers were just kind of like not noticing you and you were kind of flying under the radar?
Most 65% of people going can't afford it, and they're paying unpaid plans.
Did you, like at the end, what was your confidence level that the million dollars was in your box?
you know the ticket masters of it all buy them all out from coachella.com and then resell them for so much more made me think when was the last when was the last time you bought something where you like truly couldn't afford it like you were just like i i want this so fucking bad oh my god it's so embarrassing and i i'm just gonna buy it and i have no business buying this right now do you do you remember what what did you say leah yesterday yesterday
Who do you think made, like, in your mind, and maybe you didn't even notice, but was there a point where someone, like, really made a mistake and you thought, wow, like, I wouldn't have done that?
Oh, the scream. I was going to say Phil for a different reason, but yeah. Tell me more.
Yeah, because everyone's involved at that point. But it's funny, it's interesting that you say that, but I honestly thought his bigger mistake was when he made the mistake before by not changing his vote during the elimination, when they had to re-vote between, I think it was...
Yeah. Because at that point, and they said the millionaire will have the deciding vote. And one thing you learn pretty quickly watching the show is that if you're the millionaire, just information about you can obviously be used against you, especially if you're the millionaire. And so here they are saying that the millionaire will be the deciding vote. It was already a tie between
The last thing you want is to be the deciding vote so they can do the very thing they did to Phil, which is be like, all right, well, who was the person who voted? So he should have immediately changed his vote. So like eliminating any chance that it will be a tie. And then I don't even think that other thing happens.
You know, maybe because like the first time he spent, you know, prior to that, he didn't do like, right. He didn't do the challenge. And going into that one, he completely fell out of the radar. I mean, like that was the vote where everyone was like, hey, we're not going to get the millionaire. So let's just like kick out someone that we like we think is a threat.
And he went from like opting out of the secret challenge to kind of being forced to almost do it, it seemed like. But yeah, I was curious what you thought.
I don't know what I was thinking about the other day.
Okay, three weeks.
But yeah, it would be very difficult for anyone to leave their child for that period of time. So I empathize with any child, especially any mom that had to leave their kid. And not knowing that context makes a ton of sense why she was hyper emotional.
You are, I think famously now, work at In-N-Out. Is that accurate? You still work there? You did work there?
I bought Natalie the Dyson Airwrap like three or four years ago. She hasn't used it once. Oh, maybe that's not true. She used it once after I bought it for her, after I just scoured the heavens and the earth because this was at a time where like everyone was buying it and like you couldn't find it.
What's one thing you'll never miss about working there?
How'd you get into working there in the first place?
Is he still working there?
Amazing.
yeah that's awesome i'm like buying an island now have you been able to keep in touch with uh any of the your friends from the show and specifically the finalist um obviously you guys were close have there been any um you know reaching out being like hey i'll take like half of that or anyone trying to like guilt you into splitting the money or or anything like that
Can you explain to me? Because especially early on, like Lauren, right? Lauren was the first millionaire from the Midwest. Very sweet. She struggled with the lying. I definitely think it was a huge mistake by admitting that she was a millionaire. That being said, why was everyone so angry at her for admitting to it? And then like, you know, but you lied to us. I'm like, she was the millionaire.
It's just like, were people like leaning into that? Like, why were people getting so upset with people lying? Because we know why you're lying. This isn't a show about character. This is a show about if you're given a free pass, if you're told that lying and manipulation is okay in this world, you're going to do it.
And then it seemed to get used against people when everyone was playing the same game. What was your read on that?
Is there anyone there in your mind that felt like kind of got screwed over with their exit?
Some exits that maybe were just more like maybe their clue was, you know, it just felt like they just had some bad luck. Like it was more bad luck rather than a bad decision. Like I felt like Phil got himself kicked out because I think he had some poor game playing where I felt like other people, it was just more bad luck.
I felt like he deserved to go. I'm sorry. A group prayer, like in a room where you're supposed to not stand out or do anything odd when everyone knows that people have these secret missions and the first thing he does is like, let's all hold hands and pray. It's like, huh? What were you doing?
What a gift.
I'm sure you've been asked, like, what's the thing that, I mean, you're not going to buy any purses or anything like that, but is there something that like, I don't know, I guess, what did this winning this money mean to you?
Who did you watch? Did you like, how fast did you binge it? Or did you try to like, um, pace it out? And who did you watch it with?
You honestly felt like the perfect person to win this prize, like with your background. And it was kind of fascinating too, because early on, Sam, she's the cop. And then you had, her name escapes me, the poker player.
And there seemed to be a lot of people they casted based off of their professions, giving them some kind of like angle into like reading people, manipulating people, yada, yada. And then, you know, as you're like, I work at In-N-Out and, you know, it's like, there's nothing specific about your background that would give you like a watch out for her.
And yet you were like the deadliest in the best possible way. Like,
player there like what did that did that give it an extra kind of excitement like and did you even realize that going in because like as when they're when they're airing it they make it seem like everyone was casted based off the sophisticated background and here you are just like this very innocent very sweet person who's like what is Cara doing here you know and then you end up winning the whole thing yeah
Yeah. Maybe now that you're the winner of this show, maybe we can get you on Traders next.
Was this like to make sure you couldn't return it?
How much of that?
That's incredible.
It's such a heartwarming story. It was such a fun show. I'm excited. Thanks to Jordan Davis for giving us the scoop on this show. But it was really fun watching you, Cara. Congratulations. We love an underdog story. You definitely were like a silent assassin. It was like you played a flawless game. It was so exciting. And so, you know, just cool to see you win.
I did. She texted me and told me when she was going. But then she's really made a splash.
Well, your hair looks great, Leah.
Okay, sure.
It's like, it's like day old.
That makes sense why you screwed up though. I get it.
Well, thank you for clearing that up, Leah. Great follow-up question so we don't think our girl is a convicted criminal or felon. Cara, thanks again for coming on and congratulations. It's such an amazing win.
Well, we appreciate you coming on. And thank you guys for listening. Thank you to our guests, Cara and Lisa Traeger. Check out her new special Night Owl out on Netflix. Also, stay on Netflix. And if you haven't watched Million Dollar Secret, spoiler alert, Cara wins. But it's a fun show. And be sure to check it out. We will be back on Thursday. See you then. Bye.
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If it makes you feel any better, I didn't notice anything.
In case you don't like the outcome, I'm just here to say you look great.
Do you still have that purse?
Mine was when I was in college. That was my last year of college, my fifth year. I was one of those guys. My fifth year of college, this is going to date me, but I bought a high-definition television, a 50-inch high-definition television. But this is a flip phone era. Keep in mind, flip phones exist at this point, not Apple phones. I don't want to live in that world.
I don't want to live in that world. I spent my entire semester of student aid on this TV. I decided to just get a high definition TV, which was when those TVs were like big houses. It wasn't like a lightweight, thin TV. It was basically a whole box. And we drove down to Chicago to pay for it.
And I was so obsessed with this TV that like, and again, because I didn't have an iPhone, I remember being in class in college with printouts of my TV that I was going to buy, just like looking at the printout of my TV in like some English class.
And then I bought the TV only to then realize that even though I bought a high-definition TV, most things back then weren't broadcasted in high-definition. So I spent my entire semester... To still watch some grainy-ass TV. So it wasn't even broadcasted in high-definition. Did not know this at the time, but I was very excited. But I think it's because of the trauma I had around TVs.
Because my freshman year of college, mine and my roommate's TV was so, like, I don't even know where we got the TV. We like found it. Someone would like got rid of it. And neither of us had a TV because usually back then it was like, well, do you have a TV? I have a toaster. And it's like, yeah, sure. I'll bring my toaster. We'll use your TV. Well, neither of us had TVs.
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And we got the shitty tube TV.
like you know this big bulky like it was from like the 70s or whatever and it was so shitty that we couldn't turn it off so we left it on in our dorm room all semester long and put like a blanket over it uh to go to bed just so we could go to bed uh and at the end of the semester we threw it out the window uh and broke it we did also have we forgot to mention this my brother uh
Same ex-boyfriend.
Touche.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No. Raquel.
I love her too.
Absolutely.
West, Austin.
Are you submitting yourself?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you plan that?
Okay.
Okay.
He's like that place we used to go to all the time. Body shop.
Did you ever watch that?
100%.
I will not say a name at all.
Yeah.
That was a stand-in.
Yeah.
I'm kidding. She gave nothing. Wow. Oh, you know. I thought you were talking about Mary M. Cosby.
That was a real party.
I think that's exactly it.
Oh my God.
Sir Wieners. Sir Wieners.
We're going to catch up.
It's $8 and I'm not getting it.
No.
That sucked up.
Honestly.
Yes.
Wait, were you?
Yeah.
It will always be one seat. Absolutely.
Kiss baby. Yeah.
I don't know. I'm assuming it was a cast trip hosted by whoever she's feuding with.
Well, and the source also said she got into a major altercation with Gretchen Rossi and Emily Simpson. Without saying too much, a major announcement will be coming soon regarding her status on the show.
Gretchen?
It would be crazy if it's... Wait, but aren't they filming the spinoff?
But he said it wasn't traitors.
Yeah. Well, he said it was scripted.
This is a housewife I want to see on Traders. Stephanie Sojay from the upcoming Miami Housewives.
She's new. And I know that doesn't apply to Traders, but like there's a line in the trailer where it's like Alexia and her. So an OG versus her going off. And she might have been from the original cast. But she goes, oh, I'm Alexia and like mocks her. And I was like, because Alexia always throws her name out there. Like that's one of the people she is on the cast.
And I just feel like it's going to be a good season in Miami.
I don't remember.
Yeah. So like in the thing, she's like, don't talk to me that way. I'm Alexia Napola or whatever. And she goes, oh, I'm Alexia. And like mocks her.
No, I refuse. He hesitated.
Technically, Nick does it every day. Think about it. Every episode. How do we open the show? What's going on? Welcome back to the Vile Files.
Angela is also so iconic in Nashville when she filmed the girls and then she played back the tape and you literally hear nothing. And she's like, it clearly happened.
I mean, Lindsay has said that her, Carl and Kyle like created the show so that they know like they set the standards, but I don't think they have a producer.
I think you're right, though, because I mean, Lindsay Hubbard also she's picture of a Jessel this weekend, too. So I think we know there's like a shakeup with Summer House coming.
But also the point of bringing Jesse and Wes in last season, I think, was to, like, make it young. Mm-hmm.
Did you start the lawnmower by yourself? It's electric.
She's a big part of Summer House, though.
I'm sure they're paying her a good amount.
I go...
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Your mouth got mouths.
Yeah.
I mean, I did see someone comment on the seating chart saying like, funny that Michelle is like the prime storylines, but she's the last seat. And then Sheena commented on that comment saying like,
don't worry I've been there too or whatever I don't know something so I think it's just like whoever they think is going to be the most relevant come the reunion time goes first in second seat and then from there you separate them based off like who's friends with who who can't talk to who it's also like a color coordinated thing as well they're sent colors to like match their placements where they are so maybe she just wore the wrong outfit you know
I mean, Jesse and Jax are the type of men to just copy someone else's merch line. As we saw, Jax copied Kristen's merch line.
Did you see that Katie from Real Housewives of OC might not be like on next season or there's like a feud happening right now? Have you been seeing this?
She wasn't invited on the cast trip. She starts posting on her own. And then a source spoke out and basically said Katie wanted to go on the trip, but she was not allowed to. Let's just say her future on Real Housewives of Orange County is not looking bright.
Where did she say this?
It was in an interview with Built, and basically she continued on saying he's probably on the list just because he covers himself up in his movies and you don't see his face. Is he one of those question mark? One of those what?
Like, right. Well, you have a point. So she's neighbors with them. So some interaction she's had with them outside of like a performing context is what she's basing it on.
Well, he did tweet a response saying, I disagree with her, but I tried that once. The woman is unexpectedly spry. She really closed the gap after a mile or so.
from your neighbors? Yeah, all the time. Sometimes I look at the people and I'm like, okay, are they outside? That's my time to go.
You know who is funny? Marissa from Love is Blind. I'm sorry. The PR backlash after.
Her behavior is funny.
Funny ha ha. Like we're laughing at her? No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Like I think she's like, well, I don't know what she's doing.
Nick D. Yeah.
He was trying to be funny and I think it was in context as well of Tamara attacking him.
I feel like Marissa's mom did top end, though. Marissa's mom? Everything she said, I was like, ooh.
Because you're saying the switch up, right? Where it's like she went in on Nick and now she's friends with Nick.
She called her best friend on our show too, so...
Well, the specific word was underwhelmed, was what they kind of got down to what he said.
Well, that's what they said, but then he basically chalked it up to being like, I said I was underwhelmed. I mean, we still don't know exactly what he said.
He wouldn't even look. He was like looking forward.
What? Did she? So she took a photo? That's so gross.
She did look snatched on that couch. Makeup was fire. Hannah? Yeah.
I was going to say.
Garrett was the voice of reason. He was. For every little grill, he would just say one thing.
What? He said he only talked to her that day and the Monica's like, well, there was a whole thing. And he's like, well, I knew her before. For years.
And I actually do believe that.
Oh, yeah. I mean, he wasn't wrong when he went on his high horse or not high horse, but soapbox and was like, no matter what I say here, you guys are going to hate me. That part I was like, okay, you're not wrong. You're not wrong.
He knew there was no saving, so I think he was just like...
Tim and Alex. The Tim and Alex stuff was wild to me. Just the way they were communicating.
there was stuff though i feel like we didn't fully address too because basically she said she was with the family from 11 to 6 then had to bartend from 9 to 3 her first time ever bartending and then she was the one time you bartended since the show was today you're meeting his family but didn't you get catch where he was like kind of implying that she was partying a lot he tried to he tried to twist it and she was like no she was like no no no let's correct we were out to dinner the night before that's a different
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, I feel like by the end of that conversation, just the room realized, like, we're not getting anywhere with this because the whole time he was like, well, you called me a little bitch. And she's like, well, you are a little bitch. And he's like, well, why did you call me a little bitch?
So it's like, maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it like leaked about she's part of perfect match. Sure. So she could just be teasing perfect match.
Well, I mean, but a host has to be more than just jokes to Natalie's.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, well, Minneapolis will be, yeah. The five-year. Yeah.
Guys, the bid is for you guys to want to win. I wanted to win, but it was a setup. This was inevitable that...
I mean, Leo comparing choosing between Brittany and Hannah to pasta and steak.
I thought it was hilarious. People are eating it up. People are eating it up.
And who's the pasta?
I mean, I don't eat beef, so I'm a pasta. Pasta. Steak. I'll be impossible meat. I'll take that.
No, no, hear me out. If you eat it two times, you won't know the difference. The first time is always shocking.
It is questionable that it's plant that bleeds like meat, but I do love it.
Yeah. Not bad.
People love him on social media. People are saying, little did we know we would hate him in the show but love him.
The first two weeks is where we were winning.
Yeah. You know what Leo does do? What? Is share drinks. He does share drinks. And anything and everything. That's fine. That was interesting. Well, that's what Brittany was saying. Like, that was the first thing. She was like, I can't do this. Because any drink she had, he needed, even if it was the same drink, he would drink her drink.
Yeah, because you guys do that.
Is it a fresh toothbrush?
Am I supposed to what? Do you take it every time or a new one? No, I take it every time. And explain to me how that's any different than making out.
But you share the same travel one every single time. No, no, no. Now he's disgusted by the fact that I forget my toothbrush from time to time.
Here's a hack.
When you're traveling, every hotel has toothbrushes. Just go to the lobby and ask the person at the front.
If you act on it.
At least put you in the audience.
Yeah, well, I think for the reunion, he added perspective to it where he said things like, I would be exhausted and overwhelmed, and he gave context into that.
It's a very specific thing to cut out, though.
That's their job.
Also, isn't it the reason that women and like mothers are more drawn to true crime is because they're living out the possibility of something just so they can prepare for like their actual experience?
I wanted to know what the comment was that Nick D made, but he was like, it's between them to say what it was.
I think that's the, I think he said that explicitly or he said something.
Real quick, too. Did you see Teddy Mellencamp is getting a divorce? Oh.
Do they seem like a happy couple? I guess you never know.
First, do we think the fight was necessary? Was one of the husbands overreacting? Well, first, we have to talk about the parallel parking.
You can keep that in there. Here's the thing. They don't make you parallel park anymore for the driver's test in California. They don't? They should.
In LA, specifically.
yeah oh well yeah there you go there you go that that man is not on justin's thing now i'm like gonna be checking the front of my car all the time because i feel like someone's gonna be backing in i will say my life in sometimes in la i do that i take a photo of my car if like a car's too close or if they parked over the line i'm like just in case wow let's just sometimes in case i need in case i need being able to parallel park well is taught
I could park a fucking train.
If you're a mother, you can park parallel.
Lisa also said the second time, John, no, John, John, like not necessary. Justin was like moving.
It means you care.
Like, it's because she's trying to cover things up. Yeah.
Justin was giving just slightly intoxicated, like, just wobbling back a little bit.
I was like, the Jared Osmond wasn't supporting Whitney. He was throwing her into the fire.
Justin is a little petty because you're right. When he poured out the alcohol, I was like, girl. Between any of the couples, I'm hanging out with Justin and Whitney for sure.
Airport costumes.
boxers I get what you're saying but what I'm saying is once again we need to point out all named after House of Cards House of Cards the Kevin Spacey show she has four boxers she's not following them around to see where they poop no no no but she is giving Heather a tour and if she's giving Heather a tour and Heather is noticing them she could be like oh my god excuse the shit that could have been a fresh poop that could have been we were in the kitchen and they did it the fact that she had company with cameras coming over and she didn't think to look says something about how she feels about the shit there are one or two possibilities I think
That's not the same thing. Perception is reality.
I actually do think that. I do think that.
They set my girl up. You think so?
Here's the thing. If you're a producer, they might have.
They had that 4K close-up angle on that poop. I was like, one of y'all knew this was coming.
Heather?
I think Bronwyn ate, but I will say if I was in Heather's position, I'm like, so this was a setup. I don't need to be sitting here.
I have two thoughts. Okay. I love Bronwyn, but saying I can't apologize is not an apology.
She never once said I apologize or I'm sorry. She said I can apologize for that, which is not. That being said, if you're implying I'm a gold digger, I'm not going to throw you on my private jet that my daddy's paying for and send you to our resort.
You know? I'm like, so you can leave.
Did his cancer diagnosis work? Allegedly, yeah, a tabloid had planned to leak the information.
So I think it got out through that.
I do think like in some conversations we have, we've had that Bernie does deserve grace. But like in this, in this instance that you're saying it, I do think she, some of her values and priorities are in the wrong place because even in the after show, She was saying how she goes on like multiple dates in one night and how she has a spreadsheet.
And like her spreadsheet is like a serious thing she does where she updates it. It's like, girl, take a break. Take your kids on a trip. Or maybe just like date and not catalog everything and then like spend some time with your kids in the process, you know?
maybe so yeah i mean for sure yeah but like when she was singing yeah and she was playing the conductor yeah like what she used to be like a singer have you seen this i don't doubt that she was she's posting like she's on broadway she was on stages but she doesn't need to be conducting a group of friends singing a song but she's the one hosting the family i'm just saying it gives it just gives appearances matter in that moment yeah
I feel like we're getting siloed into this storyline that there's probably more of her to offer.
affect so many people around them but to a degree that's like bound to happen because they're kind of like an example of the times right what do you mean of like women that were kind of raised to just be kind of subservient and like protect the family regardless of their own needs so they put that before themselves and then now they're in a relationship where or they're not in a relationship that they chose themselves and they don't know how to it's hard for me to look at jen and britney and think these are two women who always put others before them and now they're not i just don't see that
That part is hard to comment on, though, because you don't know enough about our kids. Like, what does that mean, lost touch?
I hope they bring her back.
If I had to guess, I would say James Vanderbeek is a people pleaser and probably just felt very much like, well, he, he specifically said there's no playbook for how to announce these things, but I plan on talking about it at length with people magazine at some point soon to raise awareness and tell my story on my own terms.
They also filmed the finale in April for context.
But that plan had to be altered early this morning when I was informed that a tabloid was going to run the news.
We talked about this on Plus last week where like Perez Hilton has made a career on leaking information.
I think Gina said it properly. You're putting yourself in the line of fire if you choose to marry this man.
Keep it a promise ring.
That's why I wonder if we watch the reunion, if she's going to be coached. Because this is like a four, three month difference, maybe more. So it's like, has she gotten that advice? Will she talk about the situation differently?
Yeah. I will say on the flip side, though, there's celebrities like Tom Holland where they just completely off the grid, like not on Instagram. I love him. And now recently in an interview, Tom was asked what was the last thing he Googled. And basically he fessed up and said, well, sometimes I Google Zendaya. So his girlfriend. Yeah.
I would think so, yeah.
and basically he said the last thing I googled was actually Zendaya I'm not on social media and I delete it when I'm not using it so sometimes like it's more a bit of an anxiety thing but I'll check to see if everything's good and to make sure we're all cool interesting so like he just checks he'll just look and be like it's very vulnerable for him to admit but it's like
Do you Google Zendaya?
Okay. You know? One of my flexes is I saw Zendaya perform at the Sacramento State Fair way before she was famous.
We don't know if it's three parts yet, I believe.
You would think so to keep people watching, yeah. But I think Jen is guaranteed to come back next season. I say that just because people want her back. I think they're all going to be back. I hope they are.
I'm good without Tamara. She can... She's a good TV, but I'm good with her. But you ride for Lisa. I don't ride for Lisa. I just respect what she's done. I don't respect what Tamara has done.
Four plus four. She ate.
Hackers. Why don't you pull it up? I have private on, so I can't check.
What was the last thing you searched on Instagram?
Suddenly he doesn't know how to use a phone.
And I'm like, read a chapter.
That's so funny.
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It's what I enjoy spending my money on. Nick likes $25 orange juice.
How much do you get? And this is Nick being chill.
He's been researching a lot of frame TVs recently.
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He needs it. He needs it. What's crazy, though, about that house is that there's 10 bedrooms and 22 bathrooms. That's what I like. 22 bathrooms.
Who needs 11 cars?
But what I did think was crazy about the Grammys is that Taylor presented best country album to Beyonce and Kanye West. Flashback to however many years when Taylor Swift won best album of the year, right? And Kanye West was like, I just got to interrupt for a second. You didn't deserve this. Beyonce did. Crazy.
Love story. He's also only following Taylor Swift.
Yeah. No, I literally went to go look at his account.
He's being a little bitch.
I don't know. He's being fucking weird. But Chambliss screenshotted it and sent it to me. I mean, isn't public indecency illegal?
Yeah. Like 100% labia minora. I'm not a doctor.
No.
I don't know. Like, I just need to know if she's being held hostage. I need her mom or a sister, a cousin, a family friend, someone to be like, no, she's good.
That is 100% Kanye West being like, let's make headlines, let's make waves, go naked. And it worked. And she's like, okay, yes, sir.
I mean, the human body is beautiful, but why? But there is no vision. Like, that is, there's just no way she would be like, yeah, fuck yeah, let me walk a red carpet in front of all of these strangers and cameras in the world.
butt ass naked with the tiny and she keeps like pulling down this dress of of of nothing see through father like it's literally see through like you can pull it down all you want it's not changing which like when we pull it down the more you can see through it yeah so she is wearing something yeah but it's like a sheer dress like a clear plastic bag it's basically pantyhose I think pantyhose covers more yeah yeah I feel like we can all attest to like when we're out wearing a dress or a mini skirt or something and we like
constantly are pulling it down is because we're a little like self-conscious that like butt cracks out or like so I'm going to pump out. Yeah. And so the fact that she kept pulling down that non-existent dress told me that like she's uncomfortable.
A hundred percent. But I feel like it would be completely different if the way that that I watched them on the red carpet. It was like he wouldn't stand close to her. He didn't put his arm around her. He stepped away. He looked at her. It was like a very like she's a spectacle.
She is his like gets him on headlines and he just steps back and makes her do these crazy things and wears these crazy outfits.
kim that it's like his way of humiliating his ex-wife almost like as if it's like can't do it to her but i'm gonna this woman that looks exactly like kim i'm gonna make her dress like this xyz but i mean it's like these are his children's stepmother you know like your kids are seeing your stepmom's vagina on a red carpet with the rest of the world like that's crazy i couldn't agree more i wish she could speak
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I wish she'd speak, too. I wish someone in her life would speak and be like, oh, my God, no, she's always wanted to walk a red carpet naked. That's been a lifelong dream of hers. It's in her diary when she was five.
What does he have to say?
No, I think. And correct me if I'm wrong, but they basically like raise that baby. Like I know that Dream is with them, like with True all the time. I don't know where Rob is. I don't have his location.
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Why didn't she say she has one mother and one father, Robert Kardashian?
Yeah. That's definitely weird for him to be like, I have two daughters. And their names are Dream and True.
But even on watching the Kardashians, Chloe's very open about how she takes a lot of care of Dream. Sure. But that definitely does not make Tristan her father.
I mean, you know, I don't think Chloe has ever said.
Well, I just wish that Angela Black China would have said Dream has one mother, Angela White, and one father, Robert Kardashian. And like, thank you so much for these two people who like watch her. But like, you're not her parents, you know? I don't know.
We don't know. He stays off of he has a private life.
Probably because he has not played one game of basketball in so long that he's like I guess I'm just like dad of
I was like, maybe he's... Definitely a weird post by Tristan. Yeah. Definitely weird.
Because I went to a Lakers game and I've never been more bored in my life.
I do.
Don't we think the Lakers just bought him out?
On the USA Network.
So is this basically... Nick was a sophomore in college watching Temptation Island and I was two.
I just started walking.
He said, occasionally, I just like to do weird things and just like to stir it up.
Before we get into everything, I just want to say, obviously, we released our Miscarriage episode last Wednesday, and I have been absolutely in awe of just the outpour of love and support I've received. And it's, you know, a very scary thing to be vulnerable on the Internet. And it was a very personal thing to share.
Yeah. Did you know that, Nick, you would probably relate to this woman, but this UK woman was charged with harassment after cyber farting at her ex-boyfriend. This is the best headline in the world. This is the end of the world.
No, it's not dumb.
Ah!
Words began before Christmas and continued through New Year's. The inappropriate and indecent or grossly offensive videos eventually earning Evans a 12 month term for malicious communications. She proceeds to pass gas by placing the camera at her. She deserves prison. A hundred percent. She deserves to go to prison.
You're recording yourself farting and sending it to your boyfriend's ex-girlfriend. He better break up with you immediately. But what is it? You can't smell it. Doesn't matter.
Farting into a camera. She proceeds to pass gas by placing the camera on her bottom and passing the gas, said prosecutor Diane Williams. Miss Evans passing wind. How many times can we, how many different ways can we say farting? Passing wind, passing gas. Her face smiling at the camera. Criminal. She's a criminal. The victim, Deborah Pyre. Victim is in quotes.
Said the booty belches made her feel unsafe in her own home when she appeared in court pleading guilty.
The booty belches. When she appeared in court pleading guilty, she said her actions were done in support of her boyfriend. She suggested she wanted to send videos because she felt her partner was being treated unfairly. It was purely malicious. She was smirking throughout. She found it hilarious, but the victim didn't.
Evans must attend 15 rehabilitation sessions, 60 days of alcohol abstinence monitoring, and a two-year restraining order following the cheek-squeaking stunt. The cheek-squeaking stunt? This is journalism.
They have different rules. I feel like after this story, she's going to get a lot of messages being like, I'll pay for your farts.
She's going to make a living.
There's some freaks out there. I got some DMs asking for my burps on video. Your regular belching? My belching on command. Forever through college. Did you share that you have this special skill? No, I've never actually shared that before. So when I got that DM, I was a little nervous for sure. I didn't know if there was cameras.
He did not say. Open to negotiation. He said it would come from his own personal checking account, though. OK, thank you for not laundering money.
But I feel like the DMs that I've read, it's been a lot of people sharing their stories with me and, you know, I think just really proving my point of like we are not alone and, you know, to talk to people who've been through it is is incredibly healing. Obviously, still going through the motion and feeling all the things. But I do just want to acknowledge everyone who has reached out.
So she's not taking Alexis Bellino's place. No.
So we haven't heard from Heather or Tamara about Miss Gretchen. No, we have not.
So she's returning as a friend.
They started filming yet? No, no.
And didn't Paige respond with, oh, yes, a man who I haven't talked to in six months knows more about what I'm doing.
I mean, it seems very clear that they just were not on the same wavelength. Like he was ready. She's career motivated right now.
They're just not on the same page. Also, I mean, yeah, if I were Paige, Austin Kroll speaking out on Watch What Happens Live would also piss me the fuck off.
Austin, you- Who the fuck are you? You're also like, we're watching you fight with Craig right now because you can't get enough time with him. You guys can't do your podcast. Paige is like, I did you a favor, okay?
And I love you guys.
Yay! We have a full-on toddler.
It's just like one-year-old toddler.
Where would he be in a position to... Like he doesn't think he's ever treated her with much respect? Over four years ever? It was a very short...
no no i don't know i don't know that's my guess great question well i think actually it's until she's 14 months like yeah 14 months 18 months and then it's like when they're two if you go over 24 months like you're crazy you're just kind of a jerk when do we stop with weeks i also she's 74 weeks no i don't weeks is like it's crazy she's 52 weeks a month did you know how many weeks are in a year
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Wow. Bob.
Look at his outfit. Stunning.
Look at his jug of water. He's hydrated. I know.
52. Perfect. A lesson for this morning. You're so smart. No, honestly, she handled that party. First of all, I threw that party together in a week. Okay. Good for you. I said I want to do a small party. I don't want to do anything crazy. I just like she's not going to remember it, whatever, whatever. And then the closer it got to her birthday, I was like, maybe we should do a little something.
You know? Feeling a little guilt.
look what i did again i mean it's it is crazy just because i feel like every round table rob is so sure of the other person like it's always him and someone else and he's so sure of the other person and gets the other person voted out only for them to obviously still be a faithful and it's like at some point all these people got to be like all right wait a second like rob what's going on but who are you closest with in the house
Sit down.
Oh my God.
She was. I asked Nick, I said, was she eating honey nut Cheerios with a fork?
You know what I want to do today? He's nothing if not for you. Actually, he pushed it off until morning of, so.
I think that goes to your point, though, of you just being like, we're grasping at straws. You are just like looking at someone's shift in energy and being like, it's got to be because they're a traitor.
Yeah, I am kind of shocked more people after that mission weren't like looking at Danielle.
Not at, like, your birthday book launch party?
No, no, it's fine. That was a bit more expensive. All on my budget.
Don't want it to go overlooked.
And look at you now.
In his Manhattan penthouse.
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A hundred percent. Also think it's like Paige saying Austin, you know, doesn't need to comment on the relationship. It's also like, OK, Amanda, like when was the last time you and Craig had a conversation? You know, I feel like it kind of just goes both ways of the people on the outside. Obviously, this is a huge story. This is like anyone who talks about it. It's getting pickup.
I think it's just, I really want to like,
So I feel like friends of these people are.
have i didn't really come from a family of like traditions you know yeah i mean i had you know i think i've talked about like every so often on like christmas morning my mom would let us pick out whatever cereal we wanted but i really can't remember any other stuff and so it's like for river i want you know nick and i went to color me mine and painted her a little birthday plate that she can use every year on her birthday we like put her little donut on it the morning of
But don't you feel like Craig could feel the same way about Amanda being like, Amanda, you don't know like what I'm going through. And so for you to say that, like, you were unimpressed with my how I'm handling this and you think I love all this sympathy. It's like, come on, we haven't talked and I don't know how long, you know, you don't think you could say the same.
What Austin did is way worse than, but I just think it is like people commenting to comment when like neither of these people were in this relationship. And I don't know the last, I mean, do we know the last time Amanda saw Craig, talked to Craig, like knows what's going on?
I'm actually enjoying this season of Bachelor, which is a rare statement for me to say.
Oh, I don't know about that because I disagree.
Not my. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the girl who's always like, I'm not here to make friends is like, come on, babe.
No, I don't think the, like, taking him on the group date is wrong. I think that's definitely the opportunity to get... You have to, like, during group dates, that's the only way you get alone time with him is if you, like, pull him. Like, I 100%, like, she was do what you want in that whole scenario. I think the, like, then taking him from... Like, stealing him from Juliana. Oh, and Juliana.
Juliana, and then...
but I just hate that argument because I feel like Zoe could have been like, you know, honestly, like, I feel like I'm good. I'll see him tomorrow.
Like, the dinner party after a group date.
Yeah.
No, I'm disagreeing with that fully. I think it's the people who are just like more people pleasers and less of like, yeah, competitive, a little bit more aggressive, a little bit more all step on your toes. Like,
Sharing them with like 25 people. Sure, but I think there is a way to be like.
The attitude swirling in Color Me Mine. I felt so bad because everyone else was on dates, and we were like, use the different pink, Nick. Come on.
Well, Allie Jo did come at her hard with, like, you're that insecure. Like, you have nothing to say. You're that insecure.
Demure?
I mean, it was the most intense make out I've probably ever seen on TV.
Well, different group of women.
And I love how Grant walks in and he's like, Why is everyone upset? Everyone seems low vibes.
Yeah. Because we're day three and we all feel like we lost. We saw your dick hard grinding on Carolina.
Yeah. I definitely respect her being like, fuck this. I can slam dunk. I let's go. None of us are going to make these dunks anyway.
What did you think of the one-on-one date with Alex? I can't believe they went to the Bev Center.
Yeah, he did it a lot this episode. It was like he beatboxed over the intercom at the mall on the piano with Alex. He did it obviously with Mario.
Who are your top runners? Top runners? Front runners. Front runners. Thank you.
Well, we'll see. Listen, Latia, she's definitely top two.
I think she's either... I think he's so torn between Latia and Juliana.
Listen, he was like, you know what, baby? I'll take care of you.
No, I think her and Latia are at the end. Not Alex? I don't think Alex is at the end. I think she's maybe three or four, but I think his final two are Julianna and Latia.
So his first kiss Alicia went home. Does that mean you're a bad kisser?
No, no, Alex was the first impression. I wasn't surprised by Rebecca going home after that conversation where he was like, you know what, I'm going to pull Rebecca to find out why the energy in here is weird. And then she was like, robotically speaking to him.
It felt like she was trying to get, like, kind of deep, and he was like, I just wanted to, like, vibe check. Like, is everyone good in here? Like, what's going on?
Let's go.
I'm like, okay. Yeah, Mario, Hannah Burner, Lisa Vanderpump, they really upped their guests. They lowered their budget for the dates, and they upped their budget for the guests.
No, it's definitely better celebrities than who have been there in the past.
They told me he purposefully was a bad kisser to someone that he just like stuck his tongue in and didn't do anything. No.
Yeah. And Allie Jo heard you.
Yes.
I mean, I think even Andy was like, what are we even doing here? This is so fucking pointless. He called it a huge waste of time. And Meredith was like, oh.
Yeah, she was like, excuse me, to you. But it's like, it's tired. I love her. But it is a huge waste of time at this point. And Meredith wants to beat it down. She wants them to play all the clips and give all the proof. And it's just like, clearly Monica was like,
Telling Angie one thing, telling someone something else, telling Angie a different thing, telling, you know, it's like, wait, I mean, it's just crazy.
I think if I explained what you did to start that ruined it, then maybe everyone else would agree.
And it's just completely different than what's on your phone. Yes.
We started with a cupcake and the cupcake top was completely off center of it's a round plate. It was not in the center of the round plate. It was like up to the left a little bit. And my Virgo brain was like, absolutely the fuck not. That's not going to work. So I said, you know what? Why don't we switch roles and do like move to a cake? instead of this cupcake.
So it's like, okay, well. No one actually called you that. Also, when Andy was like, so-and-so wants to know if you, Seth, have a side chick in Ohio. And the whole time Meredith was like... Wait, what was the question? She's like nodding like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, what?
Thank you. Also, John never talks until Lisa takes his muzzle off.
Yes, he is a diehard Lisa.
I did not appreciate his response to Whitney apologizing to him. He was like, okay, sure, I guess. It's like she just apologized to you. She was like, I didn't get a chance to apologize to you yet.
Nick was like, no, no, no, you're not fine. You're like, you want me to erase this? I just drew a cupcake. You want me to erase the whole cupcake? I'm like, they have huge erasers here for a reason.
I remember about last reunion with Monica was that it was so chaotic and not one person could speak that it was so hard to watch.
Well, what did you think of, like, the getting into the whole, like, emotional cheating of Todd and Heather being like, well, that's not what you said on the boat and, like, her trying to, like, poke holes in the story?
And when Andy was like, so Gwen is the one who caught you? And he kind of looked, like, stunned. And Bronwyn was like, yes. Like, it kind of was like, he was like, I don't remember that.
It was like, it was a good cupcake shading. Then I wanted, you know, like, you know, those paint pins that they have that they have like actual paint. They use the paintbrush and then they have like gel.
I just, I also just, I mean, obviously, I'm glad it came from Bronwyn and not one of the other women, like, trying to bring stuff up. I mean, clearly, this was, I don't know how many years ago, didn't they say? But, like, clearly, they're good. Like, I don't think this is something that they're still working through.
But it's like, there is part of me that's like, what was the point in Bronwyn bringing this up? It's like, for what, like, Gwen to... watch it back and kind of relive that or for them to have to rewatch it and relive it or for just the world to know that they are just like any other couple and they have struggled and they've had their ups and their downs.
I wonder what her motive was for sharing this with all these women.
He only wanted to use the gel pens.
He did not want to use the paint. And I'm like, we're here to paint a plate, not pin draw.
I mean, she reads just very secure in every aspect of her life.
I mean, I think I don't know if this episode was necessary. I mean, maybe the second one will be less toxic. I think the only thing that really stood out to me for this was the like proof of Brynn twisting Jessel's words about the love of her life.
That was really hard to watch of Jessel being like, I'm watching this with my husband and I'm having to be like, that's not what I said. Like,
Yeah. And like Brynn just not really having any remorse and her kind of trying to make the excuses for it.
Which I totally I get from a like trauma background. It's just when it involves another person's like private life. You know, it's like I get like the missing, you know, like confusing the truth with with lies in her own life to like cope and keep herself like afloat during trauma. But then to like bring in other people and twist their words and make what they say.
And guess what it looks like?
A candle. So that was like really lovely for us to do that together. It's a memory we'll never forget. But it did turn out.
I know, but I think PR in like this. I mean, clearly we saw it with Lindsay Hubbard. It's like definitely not something you want to bring attention to.
Did she say it was someone in their crew?
No, it's heartbreaking. It really is. And it like it definitely explains a lot of her behavior. I think like when you're actively dealing with that and going through that and living through that, it's like it affects your behavior with other people. And like I can see how, you know, she's she's acted the way that she has.
But I think, yeah, Aaron said it perfectly of like you can have your trauma, but don't make it for other people.
I think we definitely threw in some details at the end that probably could have been left out. But it was like, what do we fill this space with?
So then we did the birthday plate and then I really was like, I want to wake her up with a donut, like a candle in the donut on the birthday plate, like go into her room, like happy birthday, you know, like that be her first moment.
Everyone had to, everyone had to abide by Nick's no sugar. He was like a donut on her birthday. Absolutely not. That's crazy. That's crazy. She can't have a donut.
That's kind of like where the restrictions end, you know?
Nick loves the excuse of like, it's Christmas. You know, like, come on, we're on the way.
Listen, winter is here. It is.
not to eat that cake good for you everyone really did kept saying like this is the best cake ever it was like just digging the knife shut the fuck up and you'll never know I'll never know also the cake pops but she handled it so well she like loved the attention yeah she did she didn't get overwhelmed no she was great I don't think she died and she took like her first steps like she started walking like a few days ago I feel like
It's gloomy outside and going to meet up with friends. Listen, it's not as appealing as it is in the summer when it's beautiful, when it's warm, when the wind is blowing. Neither is grocery shopping. Neither is grocery shopping. And lately, we've been enjoying cozy nights in with friends and what goes good with great company.
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People who do design tables.
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He had terminal cancer. Jesus Christ.
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Yeah, wow. Well, none of the pants they sent fit. You know, I've gained a good 30 pounds emotional eating. So they did send me some beautiful pants, but they don't fit. And these shorts are adjustable.
But they did send this beautiful jacket that I got some ash on yesterday, which I feel like it makes it more vintage. Is that also Hugo Boss? I don't know if you're supposed to say Hugo Boss or Boss. I've also been very confused because I think it's two different brands. Yeah. And they're like, I was DMing and tagging Hugo Boss a lot.
And they kept on being like, I think you're trying to get at Boss. And so I love them both.
I just realized this morning that I've been tagging them all. Because even when I buy a suit, it's like, is this a Boss or a Hugo Boss? I'm just saying Boss for now. Oh, actually.
and uh toxic matter yeah it's just funny because i jokingly spent all this money on sale for my friend's wedding before the fires because i needed a like a suit a dress rehearsal like so i needed three looks and i spent like two weeks going back and forth to boss in century city and i was so happy and i put them all on i kept tagging them joking like hey can i be like your new influencer model i know you got the tennis player but you know you want somebody more humble relatable
And obviously they never responded.
So they never responded. And then all these boxes hit the house. Once the house burned down, they're like, oh, you can influence for us now. So that was great.
Psycho.
We hate that. I mean, I can't go into that. That's a whole different... I have enough issues.
So what's your take on Blake and Justin? I did just do a TikTok because I had to be clear that I was bought off. Mr. Ryan Reynolds.
So once you pay me, it's very hard to get me to turn on you. So I listened to that seven minute voice memo. And if anybody leaves me a seven minute voice memo, they're criminals. So I truly, I don't need a deep dive of the case anymore.
You haven't heard it? Heidi does not have time for that.
She is not bidding her schedule. I know there's a baby probably in your boob right now. What?
Not even should be. And then he called her at three. Seven minutes long. And it sounds like a romance, like sex novel.
Uh, I have Pitbull's number. Pitbull talks like he raps. Like, if you think I talk fast, Heidi was like, she really made me stop with my life. She got off the phone. She's like, oh, you're nothing compared to Pitbull.
You could put it to a beat. It was that good.
I mean, because anytime I think about it, I'm like, fuck, we still don't have our town in the house. So it's like this, like, I'm like, yeah, he's still popping, but it's like, it's just the weirdest. Like, like we were saying yesterday, we were doing like things where I had to like answer questions and I just didn't have an answer.
And usually like, you know, somebody asks you for like beats or like, you're like, oh, what? And I'm like, like, it's just like, you're like, well, what now? I'm like, I don't fucking know. Like, it's like, it's so horrible.
Yeah, it's, I can't imagine how difficult the situation would be if you weren't a teen. Like that's what's so scary. Like I know the pandemic and COVID, you heard about so many breakups and stuff because, you know, now it's like you're really tested.
So it's scary to think about all the relationships and families that were affected by this that aren't built like Heidi and I, that I, you know, even hopefully my parents can survive in the apartment together, you know?
um so yeah it's a lot did your parents oh my parents house burned down also oh my god so they're now very close contact which you know they used to my dad snores really loud you know I don't um no I So, you know, it's just that now it's just a different marriage that even they've now have because they had a house that like could separate each other.
We're in Santa Barbara. My parents are in Santa Monica. My dad's still a dentist working.
The fire. So we lived at the top of the Palisades where the fire we thought was coming down. We didn't know because we weren't watching the news because Heidi wouldn't change the channel because we had a sick kid with 104 degree fever.
temperature just locked into blippy or whatever and she's like i'm not turning on the news i'm like turn on the news which if we had turned on the news we would have known the fire was coming up from temescal canyon like going towards my parents house but we just thought it was behind our house so she evacuated with the kids to my parents house to be safe and then when she got there like took everything out my older sister called like what are you doing there you're not watching the news the fire is about to hit like mom and dad's house so yeah that was a
you know back up there too yeah so she double packed up solo with sick kids because i'm trying to tear my dad away from a mountain of fire because he was like in this trance like like would not leave i'm like you're gonna die dad like he's like i'm gonna stay in and fight the fire i did it in malibu in the 70s i'm like this is a forest fire like you're gonna die inside like
Took me two hours to get him in a car. And I finally like drove him away. And then I watched on our security cameras. He like snuck back. So now I'm like watching my dad with this little garden hose as just a mountain of flames is coming down the street. And I'm like, it's not picking up his phone. So the hardest part about the whole thing was watching and not having my dad pick up his phone.
And I was like, my dad's going to die.
and like heidi's like you gotta leave gotta leave and i'm like i gotta go back so thankfully it took my mind off the fact we were losing everything because i was so concerned about my dad dying which he fully should have because then he went from my house to his house and wasn't picking up the phone i kept calling and calling and finally picked up and he sounded adam on speaker he sounded like he had like brain poisoning or something from the smoke and he's like
I'm doing well in here. All the houses around are on fire, but I'm doing a good job. I'm like, you're going to die. He's like, I'll just jump in the pool. I'm like, oh, he is like.
How did he eventually get that? He said, like, finally, like, I probably called realistically 700 times, like, just like that for two hours. Finally... He's like, yeah, I got to go. And he's like, I'm going to get out of here. And he did say as he was driving, cars were just blowing up next to him. Trash cans were just on fire, blowing and hitting the car. And so he admits that he's very lucky.
And, you know, he went to the hospital with like smoke inhalation, poisoning or whatever. And he can barely talk now. So.
that was like good and bad because it really took my mind off of like watching our own house burning down on the security camera so because i was like at least my dad got out of there and then i was just like so mad for so long like why would he have added i didn't need this extra but he clearly you know once our house burned down he's like i can't lose two you know the family needs one house so i get it but this was not a normal situation that's crazy oh it's
I mean, it's beyond crazy. Because it's also, like I always say, I've been born and raised in the Palisades. Every single one of my friends and their parents, everyone's house burned down. So it's not like, oh, our house and my group chats. Your village, your childhood. Our whole world. So I just keep saying to Heidi when I'm like, I just feel like we got jacked.
Like our lives were just stolen from us. Yeah.
everything i've ever known and the hardest part is like we have our iphones like we take a lot of photos a lot of snapchats so i have a bunch of content but my entire pre-iphone life was at my parents house curated in my time capsule room all my drawers every trophy everything like stuff i want to show my parents my kids like my grandpa's stuff his newspaper clippings my dad's everything
Just being gone, like, that hurts the most because my parents didn't get one thing out. Wow. Zero. Not even, like, a bag with clothes. That's heartbreaking. It's insane. But he's a global pop star, so, you know, like, you know, what are these?
Thankfully, Gunnar has this new friend at school that's very sweet, that loves dinosaurs, and... This little angel is, you know, they're having a play date today. That's why we're able to come here and they're going to do crystals and minerals. So thank God there is this one just like him that's so sweet. And the school we already got him in had, you know, counselors and everything.
principal and they were all really like aware of his situation so he transitioned really well it was horrific the other day just randomly he had a stick and he was just drying in the sand like his house and like his town Heidi's like say something like what am I gonna say Heidi like it's just like I don't want to start crying in front of like I not grown up enough to like do something sometimes you don't need to say anything you just need to like like
I didn't feel.
Well, I've learned what crashing out means. I always saw it a lot on TikTok. So I've been crashing out daily. Also spiraling. I've been spiraling also. So I just feel like it's waves. You'll get three emails that'll make you just so like, our life is so good. And then I'm in a group chat with all my neighbors and they're like,
like literally yelling at me you haven't filled out the debris thing i'm like i'm trying to make money to buy a house like i don't care about debris and like well we can't clear the debris unless all the things like you can't comprehend how many neighbors are on these chats and i'm like a bad guy because i haven't submitted all these forms and codes and this i'm like why do i need debris move i don't have money to build on that but so it's just this like oh it's so exciting and then
rock bottom, just gutter energy.
That's how I feel too. Same home.
permanent does that make sense or like more i don't know you're a top 53 billboard debut is you're in the history book yes yes it's like i mean you just it doesn't matter what the audience says in the month the year you're the proof is done yeah you did it it's permanent you did it you did it
Now we're mainstream. Let's give a shout out. 15 number ones international here. But the hardest part in the music industry, which now, thank you, God, is playlisting. Like when we were looking into like trying to get Heidi's music back in the game, you got to pay...
20 000 a month to get these playlists and people and maybe you know like no that ain't happening but now she's on every major pandora spotify apple music amazon like the hardest and she's the cover photo which that's taylor swift that's sabrina like there's no other and that was heidi so once i feel like and she has i try to keep telling her this but she's like whatever i'm like yeah
It doesn't matter. Like you're locked in. The people sending me records now are the only people that get these records are Taylor Swift. Like the biggest people in industry are not only waiving their fee and saying, we want to work with you, but they're not getting behind you. So we've had great music. Imagine if the music gets better and cause they're here for it. They want to support.
So I have so much faith in the group project, which is, you know, the community pushing Heidi on the entire planet earth. So make sure to get the group project merch on prouddaddy.com.
We'll do a few notes. A couple of few show notes. So yeah, another amazing thing that Angel and the music business that right away after the house burned down reached out and came over this crazy cloud and I just can't get over is Avril Lavigne. Oh, wow. So the night of pretty much, she was like, anything you need, clothes, wine. And I wrote to her jokingly, like, how about a record?
And she's like, I'll come over with wine. And I was like, that's fine. I'm like, we live really far away now. She's like, I'll drive. I was like, okay. So Avril Lavigne came over and drank wine with us.
Nice bag.
She's been just the biggest teammate ever. That's awesome. And, you know, if you told me three weeks ago, like, Avril Lavigne would be one of our best friends, I'd be like, ha, ha, ha. So now she is.
You know, that was more directed at people in my immediate life because, you know, I'm a team player for my whole friend world and all these people, their real estate, their whatever, their flower shops. I'm always hosting for people and do this. So when everything was happening and all these respectfully civilian randos are posting,
Heidi's music and people I've grown up with and know and close friends can't just throw it in an IG story. I don't need a real, I don't need a TikTok, but you can't throw Heidi's song in an IG story. I took that so personally. I know some people in the comments said, you can't expect things of people. It's like, no, you can, actually, if you've put...
your energy and life is supporting to somebody, you would expect it to be reciprocal. So those are troll demons that write that. But so initially it was non, and then it graduated past like my, cause I was going through my contact list. Like who hasn't? I was like really checking.
And then people that likes podcasts I've been on or people that are using my content on their YouTube channel and are monetizing it and still can't after mobile to text. Now I'm like, Oh, so now I don't need to like name names and is what it is. Cause she, God willing will be one of the greatest. pop superstars in the world.
And I'm going to remember all these people and they're not going to be allowed to come to Don Antonio's and have skinny margarita night with us.
And we're here. People are still catching up. Like J-Lo wasn't on my list. And then J-Lo did it.
And she followed Heidi back. And they DM, hope you recognize she wore a spider dress. So go with it. I'm like. I didn't catch it, but Heidi did.
And then of like all the mega stars that like just yesterday, David Foster, who I did The Princess of Malibu with, who I know is the original Simon Cowell. He's the biggest hater on the planet, but he was the first person to put Heidi in the recording studio, test all her keys and everything. And he would have said like, get the F out of here. And he's like, oh, you got tone. We can do this.
And he got her first recording. record deal option with Warner Brothers back in the day. Went up not doing it because they want a 360 deal. But for him to do a post yesterday, listening to the music and doing his finger thing, and I've seen him do the finger thing in the studio with Michael Bublé and Celine Dion. Like, if you get the David Foster finger, like...
so i saw that i was like oh that's the exercise because i keep seeing signs from god like to keep me from going nuts you know so they're very helpful that was a big one yesterday i was like oh wow faz man you know not to put anyone on the spot but is there someone that hasn't like posted something that you're like that would be so cool if if I reached out to Britney Spears. Okay. And I did.
I did reach out to Britney Spears' manager. At this point.
I mean, truly. I was like, and she dances a lot. Like, it's like, just mix it into the playlist here. You know, and it says, I'll be your man.
Yeah, yeah. And it's I'll be your blonde tonight. And she has blonde hair a lot of the time. So that one I was like, oh, okay. So not Brit yet. Who else have I DM'd? I've DM'd a lot of people. Obviously emailed Taylor Swift right away. Okay. That was night one.
Well, I mean, this is the email. You have the email. This one is getting read. So it's not getting read. It's getting read. If you don't get a response, that's also a response. Yeah. She could have something in the works. She's mixing currently. I think she's just going to have Heidi be involved with the rep announcement somehow. Maybe just come out on stage.
We'll have an Easter egg for everybody or something. So I still haven't given up hope on that one. But that was a big one, night one. I was like, our house just burned down, Taylor. I need you. So.
That's where I'm at. So I keep telling people like I'm at zero and I had to hustle when I had things and I was still like an insane hustler and I had like my jeans and you know, all my, I keep saying all my charging cables, rebuying charging cables is torture.
I did get an Apple. They're like, here's an Apple. Like, I was like, thank you. 15% off. I was like, I already bought them. Like I need to hustle. I can't have a dead phone.
We just paid to have them sharpened. Like our knife collection, I just paid to have each one sharpened.
I was digging in the rubble yesterday just looking for like one knife. I was like, could one knife have survived? It's like they go through the hot fire. It's metal, yeah, come on. I was like, no. And also for anyone in the Palisades and you see my content, do not do what I have been doing. Don't go into your rubble in shorts. Do not, not wear a mask. Really stupid. So like, don't do it.
I've been to wear the white outfit. You see that looks ridiculous. A lot of toxic. My legs have been burning for days now.
Sometimes we can listen. I was like, all right. It's the shorts. Well, I was not planning on like doing anything where, and then I like stepped on one thing and went like, and like all of it. So I was like.
That's why I spent like four hours digging up shattered crystals.
I mean, we lived like during the hills directly across from the house that burned down our house that we lived on in during all of the hills was across the street from the house we ended up at that we, so we technically have two houses of all of our memories that burned down. So when people thought we were living in the Hollywood Hills and that little Christian apartment,
like we lived in the palisades and we commute to hollywood every day because the palisades was has been such part of my life and became heidi's life so you walk out of our burnt house and you look at our burnt house in front of it it's like two different of our eras as taylor would say this gone
Taylor, email back. I lost all the gifts you sent me. And you guys are fighting back, or is that right? You know, this is my favorite thing, and I don't want to get into it, but... The day this all went down, I'm already getting legal stuff involved. So now with a new president, now it's like propaganda. It's not political. I don't care who's in the office, what party.
I'm going to sue whoever is responsible for us not having our house and life. So that was the one thing that has been getting a little annoying on social. People are like attaching this to like. I mean, everything is Paul. Yeah, but it's like, no, it's not. We just don't have a house and we want accountability and we want the truth to see if people made mistakes. I mean, it's a thing.
Yeah. What the fuck? They don't get you pumped up. Oh. So what's so weird about life is back to my shopping for that wedding for the Hugo Boss stuff. I was a groomsman in the wedding like a week before. And my best friend growing up who in college, long story short, like I saved his life and his dad treats me like a son. And he's like the smartest lawyer in the world.
And he just beat Edison for $400,000. houses in the Woosley case. And I'm talking to him about how Edison had 20 lawyers against him and his small firm. It's just him and whatever, blah, blah, blah. And he put up all of his own money for everyone. It was like 6 million. And he risked it if they blah, blah, blah.
And I jokingly say to Heidi, man, how cool would it be to have Peter McNulty be your lawyer? So a week and a half later, our house burned down. And now we're the lead plaintiffs for Peter McNulty is our lawyer, because not only that, our next door neighbor is who my friend married the daughter. So he's, it's not just about me. It's like his son's wife's family house burned down next door to us.
Like I was on the hill watching the fire come down with her dad to the last minute. So when people were like, Oh, so money, like, this is not like a money. This is like, These people are emotionally invested in this outcome.
I mean, if you get on this group chat that's yelling at me about debris removal, they're ready to start building. I'm holding back the whole block right now.
Well, Heidi's going on tour, international tour.
There's 14 countries that want to see you because you're number one there.
He was almost gone, so we'll see how...
I'm sure he's real nice to you. ABC star. I hope that he writes this wrong. I'm not holding my breath. It doesn't matter. It's just like these other people that didn't shout Heidi out. We got J-Lo. We're going to the whole new level. I mean, I'm trying to get the new, I'm about to give you the premiere of the Pitbull right here.
So they have a remix coming out.
And I'm waiting for the final master to upload so that it can start streaming. And I'm texting every second, like, hurry up. Because the guy that's mixing it has 17 Grammys, so he isn't in there.
speed I am obviously he's operating on 17 Grammys time it's like he doesn't even I keep calling like hello again to his voicemail he's not picking up but yeah so that's God willing gonna go number one globally because Pitbull has 57 million monthly listeners so like this whole thing about Is he going to drop it on his... Yeah, it's just going to be a duo, like a primary artist collab.
So it comes through both of this.
That's not bigger, not bigger, but it's different because that's a different kind of music. And for them to send a record that's actually as big or not bigger because Pitbull is just a global superstar and now he's on a record.
there you go. And so he's on the record with that. But the one that was sent, who sent that and like, like that's just, no, people would be like, no, that didn't happen. But I can't say, they literally told me we'll take it away if you say it.
There's two things that I'm, two different things right now that I'm having to keep a secret that are just like,
Yeah, but then his manager texted me and was like, you do whatever you want. You're killing the whole game. Don't listen to any of these labels. He's like, you're running the show. I'm like, so right then I'm at the coffee shop, Pitbull tease. So you got something for us? I mean, any second, any second. I'm going to, let me call him for a plan.
Ready to go? Yeah, how close do I put it to the mic?
Oh, like, there we go.
Oh, let's have the star. She needs practice. Can we announce this?
If you told me how to text Pitbull for approval and stuff, I would have been like... But that's what I keep saying to Heidi. If there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel, like if these aren't signs, like we went into a new dimension. It's a very weird upside down world like that Netflix show, you know? But there's so much insane positivity that there has to be
something so good coming up that we will have the power to help all of our friends and family have a bigger platform because that's what just keeps me going there's no way these things aren't happening like somebody that told me they were like in a coma this was like a week ago they called me i have another number like i was in a coma and when i came out of the coma i thought like i'm misquoting them obviously like why did god do this and their quote or whoever they were like
God didn't bring you this far to bring you this far. I was like, okay, like, let's go, you know? So that's where I'm just like, we just went, you know, we've been, obviously we've been unfamous for a long time, but we were peak famous. The energy that's connected to this is so powerful and loving that it's like,
feels like anything is possible so it's just like a different frequency you know like a vibration like we were famous in like a low vibration before where it's like now people are like asking for hugs and like crying on me like i'm like it's crazy are you a hugger i have now i'm all in no he's not a kisser hugger now i'm hugging strangers contact dermatitis i'm all in whatever go camping
I mean, it's really, I mean, been life-changing. That's what I mean. So it's like, again, you know, it's a hard thing mentally because you're like, would I trade just to have my lazy boy back and sitting and watching my hummingbirds? But then I'm like, obviously there's something so much greater. This is the universe.
And a lot of like crystal energy people, I love deep diving them on TikTok. They said since we had like 2,000 crystals in this house and 3,000 pound ones that like when all the crystals exploded and shatter, like all the like love and energy we put into that house with them, with the magical hummingbirds, like just made like a portal that we went through. I mean, you can get deep dive mics. Yes.
Yeah. In that portal. So I think Heidi is a radio tour pop star herself.
That's so exciting. That's done.
That's been a hectic two weeks, let me tell you.
Sure, sure, sure. How do I talk to this person? He's like, I want to ad-lib here. So we had to go to the recording studio yesterday, drive away, and add the ad-libs. Pitbull wanted in the remix on those ad-libs.
It was just like that text just took like the pressure of my life off.
The coolest part about this whole experience in the last week is so like last time we guys talked to you, we were talking about Heidi was big in China and the music was blowing up. So that's why we started working on new songs.
So the best part about all this is all the new songs that just came out on Superficial 2, Heidi Wood are all the new youngest, hottest writer, producers, talented people that took a risk by giving us their best record when Heidi wasn't a global pop superstar. And now they're getting so much attention and getting playlists that they would never be on.
I mean, not right now, maybe in a couple of years, but they're all like 23, 20. Obviously we could only get the young up and coming top people, but they're getting...
lot of eyes on them because they're so talented so that's been cool because they like took a leap of faith and you know so that's been you know may not be like heidi's his pop but still yeah that is kind of happening right now and they're so excited and you know posting screen recordings on their stories in the comment section of just like everyone loving their songs and it's just like you guys have become force multipliers you know like there's a lot of
really dope people connected to Heidi, which now are going to like, now the amount of records now everyone's like, like they, we just got a new song yesterday that they wrote just about the fires for Heidi. And it's, if it doesn't win a Grammy, then I'm going to agree with some of these other people that may be rigged, but I think it will. All right.
We don't need drama from you guys. Yeah, yeah. This is a fun show. We're talking, imagining.
We would love to support you guys.
Gonna have to make some phone calls out of you. Push these networks a little bit. Gotta ring her. Gotta ring her. Well, I love you guys.
Let's get really serious here. So Heidi right now is in the Billboard charts. And I've learned all this in the last week. To continue getting to number one in the Billboard charts, it's a journey. And on this journey, we need sales. If you can buy physical music on iTunes store, that's great. If you can't, that's great too. Use YouTube music if it's free.
Stream Heidi's All Do It music video, which Lil Nas just put on his IG story this morning. And I'm going to misquote him, but I'm pretty sure he says, she's taking everything.
or something like it was made so he's enjoying the music video so that was great um spotify if you're on a spotify playlist and you're listening to music click the three little dots and share it out of the playlist because that teaches the algorithm that this needs to move up in the playlist If you're in Apple Music, add to your playlist. So don't just be listening to it.
Make sure it's added to your library. Deezer, Amazon Music, anything that has music like Pandora, Shazam, your radio station. If you have a local radio station, you have all radio matters. So they've been playing Heidi on the radio because people are calling, they're DMing, they're in the comment section, and it's making a difference. So if you're on an app, Use the reels.
Use the YouTube short sound. Use the TikTok sound. All of this encompasses getting number one on Billboard, which, God willing, we do. That's a wrap.
We'll make a video.
There you go. I mean, I could keep going, but also buy the vinyl.
I think one of the biggest shakeups you can have of like realization is like hitting rock bottom, like the chance of losing everything. Like he almost, I mean, Jen was like, I don't want to be in this marriage anymore. Like I want to take my children. And I think those two things can really make a person change. want to like change everything about themselves.
We did not get the call. Okay.
So like, why wouldn't, how could this all be an act if he like literally, I mean, this show isn't anything to him. Like he's, you know, he's.
Yeah. It's not like.
But y'all were busy. They knew we were busy. The AMAs knew. Yeah. They're like, this couple? They're constantly on the go.
Yeah.
Like, that's not growth. That's buzzword.
Like he Googled words to say that sound good.
Yeah, he's like, I memorized it last night. I can even spell it for you, and I can give you the noun version and the adjective for after.
Well, Phaedra's back. Thank God. Thank God. Honestly, the second Phaedra came on my screen, I was like, and this is what it's all about, people. Like, this is what Atlanta Housewives is. Thank you very much, Phaedra. I also love the Portia and Phaedra thing. bond of it all is so good. Freaking frack her back. It's so good. It's so nostalgic. You know? It feels good in your bones.
She's got Charles Oakley. She'll be fine. Phaedra being like, he's married? She's like, girl, she's been married for the last like 10 years, over 10 years. What just goes to Brit Eady's point a couple episodes ago being like, your man doesn't claim you.
No, him sitting at that table at Brit's event and being like, this is my hell.
Cause what did Brett say to him? Was like, Angela said that I was a whore. I'm your whore. I would.
The way that all of these women were clowning Brit's bare naked event, being like, and what's in this box? Not even a piece of tissue paper. No confetti. Even then, her definition of shapewear was just like... Her giving Angela an extra large was crazy. That was so rude. That was fucked up.
Nailed it. No, that was nuts. I'm excited for their trip to Grenada though. I am excited. I think this is going to be messy, messy.
Well, I guess we'll see. We do have Chris here.
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months. I've taken Nutrafol for four years now, on and off. My hair was in the best state it has ever been in before I got pregnant. It was so long. It was so healthy. It was luxurious. Less hair in the shower. And then I took the Nutrafols postpartum after I gave birth to River. I recommended it to so many friends who were just giving birth. My mom's taking Nutrafol. Nick's mom's taking Nutrafol.
Everyone's taking Nutrafol because it works.
Oh, mine did that too. Is it the touch ID thing?
Yeah, mine did that too. I had to go through the little things.
Yeah, that's what I did.
Put 00000. That's what I did. Don't tell anyone.
He was like, do you still want to use this? And I was like, yes.
I will forget.
Literally.
How much time do you feel you need, personally, to get through the bath?
I'll do it, you two.
Our daughter's name isn't stream, it's river.
Yeah.
As soon as Wes was done tattooing, Nick was like, I think I should have put it on the other arm. And Wes was like, And you're done.
Who's that dog? You're like, it'll fade a little bit and it'll look better. Yeah, I know.
Do you feel like she knows? I think it's mine. No.
Yeah, they do kind of look similar. Tell that to Steve's face.
What if we get another dog eventually? Then he has to get another dog. It's like, whew! Family album, literally.
Wait, does she know that her name is Booger?
On your fresh food. I see the carrots.
Because it goes downhill from here.
The people who are more mad at me for reading the text than for the woman talking shit on my kid is like, they're like, well, it was a private text, so she was actually being nice by not saying it to your face. It's like... Are you OK? Like, no, for sure, because talking behind someone's back is way better than saying it to their face. That's for sure.
We're happy to have you.
Do you usually like sleep until a late afternoon?
Booger is not waking you up?
All of you need to get on the hatch of...
I wake up to birds tweeting.
It's the sunshine.
But I'm not letting Peeping Tom look through my window as I'm asleep.
You don't think Tom has a ladder?
Oh my God, he's so rich. I'm just fucking loaded.
At the Williamsburg Hotel.
Okay, Rich. Okay, Rich. Rich.
Yeah, we had to post a couple, or Nick, I wasn't. Nick had to post a couple stories.
Love a good little. I always stay here.
Wouldn't stay anywhere else.
That's nuts. So what are you watching these days on your television screen?
Which housey?
So Brit.
And she's like running around Vegas singing.
No, that is not.
She's an entrepreneur.
why are you, why are you copying my, why are you cheating on my homework?
Well, you know. Thank God they're out, you know. Yeah. And do you think they will go back to filming Chris Lino's best?
You think? I feel like immediately.
They're getting the cameras running. Oh my God.
Send her back. A redo. Sorry. A redo immediately.
I'm honestly shocked that they took that and no one, none of those officers in that prison were like, hmm. like whoa kind of ate whoa what's this in this box back here you know maybe we just she's like they didn't catch the dolce gabbana dress i shoved up my ass they made me cough but that bitch didn't come out a full vintage gown wait so who's your favorite on um mormon wives
So is this pre-first episode? This is after the first episode.
Yeah.
I need a pick-me-up. It's crazy. It's crazy. You know, I'm feeling down in the dumps. Give me Whitney's hospital video.
Boom!
If you're doing a heart like this... I can't even do it. Like who?
And then you scissor them.
When they were sitting doing the... meeting, you know, like who's gonna be back in MomTalk. And Taylor's like, I think Demi's out. She's like, we're not voting on me. You're so stupid.
She's quite lovely in person.
I'm sure I'm going to like open up about like the size of my something or, you know, I always feel like I open up too much. You love a comedian? I'm always like, and this is why this happened to me at 10 years old.
Well, I think with Jen being like, I'm taking the kids. I'm done. He was like, whoa. The fact that he left medical school and had already paid a shit ton of money to be in it and was like, I'm just going to quit. And just be a stay-at-home dad? Yeah, to be a stay-at-home dad.
I mean... Is this possible?
We'll circle back. But no, to me... Just kidding, I guess. To me, calling Taylor disgusting, a disgusting human being, my jaw was on the floor.
I do. Yeah, I do. Yeah.
No one's backing them up.
Not one person is nodding their head.
Her saying afterwards.
Her saying afterwards, and I haven't even put on my boxing gloves yet. Yeah. Was like, so you're going to hit her? Yeah.
She wasn't the one before the new face and the nose job. And she's definitely not that bitch after.
The way she in Arizona, the way Layla tried to like stand up for Demi and she goes, no, no, no, wait until I'm finished. And she continues going and then she goes, you can go.
Go.
And I was like...
I do hear season three is so crazy.
She's like, what do you mean, babe? We're not swinging in this? She's like, it's been five years.
My bad. You're not? That's crazy.
No, with Brett being like, what the... She's like, why are you getting so defensive?
No, the way that she brought up all of those rumors on camera, and all those rumors about you cheating on your first marriage, and then all those rumors about you going to rehab because you were hooked on drugs, and all those rumors that you were, like, hooking up with all those strippers, and all those rumors that you were, like, in the... You could absolutely tell that Brett had no idea where she was going to bring that up.
I actually haven't focused on his jaw in a moment.
I think it is the opposite. It's the opposite.
Because she's like in the other room and Nick's still watching. She walked out and Nick's like, oh, that's the best part, honey.
I feel like they do have the content for it.
I'm like, okay, let me figure out what this is about. They recently all followed each other back. They're back commenting on each other's stuff.
Nature's healing. Nature's healing. That's playing the long game. World peace is coming along. The world hunger is now cured.
I don't know. I did see Demi comment on Jesse and Whitney's. Jesse and Whitney are in Amsterdam right now. I don't know what they're doing. Jesse and Whitney? Yes. Doing some sort of press for Disney. And Demi commented and said, I'm so jealous. You guys look so cute. did I miss a chapter?
they can't they can't oh my god demi just texted me wait suddenly i'm a little fly on this green wall he's perched on that little leaf over there who is that you guys that's a statue look away
You do have to be naked, though, if you're going to be a statue.
Have you heard of Natalie Joy? I fucking hate her. You're like, I hate her.
Yeah, there was like no flashes.
I'll die with you. You have to watch a video of him on the red carpet. Not one flash.
Yeah. You know, there's one that was like pulled.
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I feel like I heard enough when she was like, he knew that my mom was sick and dying and he still treated me this way. And that was where I was like, All right. I you know, there may be two sides to every story, but that tells me everything I need to know.
Yeah. Just thought.
She's like, oh, and I'm out. I didn't see that in the transcript.
So was Nia and Danny kind of the people who were like, who's this?
You see her walk on screen.
It's showing Lala and you see just Lala. And then Sheena just come and stands next to Lala and does not say one word.
Yeah. Go ahead.
What do you feel like made you so uncomfortable about the Danny in the closet thing? Was it because you know that they kind of protect or hide certain parts of their relationship? And so it felt to you like, oh, he's hiding this. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you have issues with the way that Jesse spoke to Jason in Santa Barbara? It was clear that Jesse was pretty drunk when Jason came to check on him in his room and he kind of got aggressive with him.
Oh, and they met up again for another apology. At a bar. He ordered that water real quick.
Are we going to see going forward? Obviously, I guess Jax gets out of rehab soon. Are we going to see the men hold him accountable? Because we've had the scenes of Danny and Jason kind of coming into the house. Jason even driving him to rehab, kind of put their foot down and be like, this is not OK behavior.
Do we feel like we already knew the answer just because of the rage texting he was sending Brittany during the entire time?
Literally. She's very taken. Double taken. In case one falls off, there's another.
Before we let you go, do you regret or stand on comparing your ex who struggled with addiction to Danny?
Do you think they did this because they brought in the golden people and they were like, we can't put them on those.
If that was the state of that meeting of like, hey, say everything to my face as soon as she left. Why do you think Jasmine kept it going?
That's a good call. Like, we got to get them just some double beds.
Do you and Jason ever fight?
No, there's a chalk. He was happily engaged to Jack.
I can't wait. My mom did tell me this morning that she's officially not going to go on this season of Golden Bachelor. If she's asked. Oh. I've just realized that maybe this isn't the year to do it. I'm like, okay, period. She's like, I don't need a boyfriend. I'm like, okay, period. But she's keeping her options open. Oh, well, yes, of course. She said next year.
Okay. Yeah. Maybe let them figure out who's on board. Let them have a run with this production team. Okay. Let's just see how it goes. Maybe next season people are in their more permanent spots and it feels a little bit more secure. There's a flow. She'll take a run at it next year.
Right.
Wait, it's Hulu not picking it up? Like ABC is still going to put it on cable television?
Oh, wow.
You know what, Nick and Natalie were going to see us here. I'm going to send everybody.
Which is crazy because I feel like our Mormon wives have been promoting nonstop.
Yeah. Yeah. And also, I think they're unscripted. Elizabeth Moss out there being like, hey, everyone. Yeah. Watch what happens live.
She was on like missed it to go on like Seth Meyers.
I feel like with with Miranda, we're getting the promise of the premise because I feel like like season one was great. But I feel like I was expecting more swinging drama within and like and it was fine. You really got to develop like all the girls and stuff, but they weren't a part of it. And now we're like, oh, there's some like backstory here. I don't know what happened, but something happened.
Yeah. And we get to see it.
How do you pick a favorite saint?
Yeah.
I'm going to say Whitney. I think Whitney might be my favorite as well.
Justin watches it all the time.
She's a consummate professional.
Oh, I misunderstood. No, no.
I really enjoy Zach.
Zach, you know, I wouldn't scratch my itch, but I heard about the Canadian, the Canadian boyfriend that's moving in and them joking about you hauling. And I was like, got to see how this goes.
Yes. Yeah.
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Are we talking a CVS box dye or a Sally's Beauty box dye?
Like, that's not George.
Well, the thing is, I think it's like for a movie.
I think it's for a Broadway show. So it's like he's doing it every night, and I think that's why he dyed it.
Yeah.
I mean, he's George Clooney.
He's not fighting with his wife, so he needs something to get people talking.
in the sink it was like okay yeah I guess it's tit for tat because then Jax invited her over to stay in the house because he found the photos on Brittany's iPad or whatever it was so it's like it's couples literally just tit for tatting yeah I have kind of a hard time with the valley and I think it's like maybe it's my own like emotional immaturity of just it's a completely different point in my life where yeah
where like it's like to watch Vanderpump like Vanderpump hits me way harder because I'm like these are my southern hospitality southern hospitality like that works for me but like the southern like southern charm still works for me because they are in they are Peter Pan's but I think the valley it's like I'm just it's just kind of mind you know what you're probably watching and I don't know maybe this is like I'm watching in fear oh
You had a thought about the line organization. I have a lot of feelings about that.
all getting the same goal.
Yeah. Oh,
Wow. Crazy. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, that's why the valley isn't hitting for me.
Yeah.
Reports, as the Meredith source, who's been following the story very closely, Basically on Twitter, like last, was it last week? So rumors start circulating on Twitter. It's unclear where the source is coming from, that Meredith has been suspended from Real Hospice of Salt Lake City after getting into a huge fight with Brittany. And this is all very confusing.
I, as a reporter, am trying to track down the source of this information. And it's very unclear. It's coming from like Twitter blogs and stuff like that. So it's unclear whether this is trustworthy or not. And then... A source, which is a very, yes, allegedly, a source which has a very specific cadence to it, reports the U.S. Sun that says, Meredith has not been suspended from the show.
She is not pleased about the rumors and nastiness, pun intended. She wouldn't be surprised if the call was coming from inside the house and Britney was leaking all of this herself to stay relevant. Meredith and Britney get into some pretty nasty altercations and have some blowout fights, but nothing that warrants a suspension.
Then, while all of this is happening, Meredith's Instagram account continuing as normal. She's posting quotes from Albert Camus. She is hanging out with Luanne de Lesseps in an elevator, drunk and singing. She is photoshopping the fuck out of her face. She's photoshopping the fuck out of her face. As she should.
And posting what she does, her tagline, basically to dispel the rumors that, what is it? Jealousy is a disease.
Or something like that, yeah. And then the last update I have from Meredith is that she sprained her toe and she's upset about it because she can't get a pedicure. So that's what's coming from the Meredith camp.
Which, don't they already put a glam filter on the confessional?
You have Ramona looking like a newborn child.
Especially when you're Meredith and you have such a specific way of speaking. And so you know it came out and Meredith was like, fuck. Fuckers. I told him to change a couple words. I would never. No, my Meredith. You guys, my Meredith's kind of gone. Oh, no.
But also, if it was her, why would she not flex that she was hanging out with Michael Jordan?
So it's not her.
Because if I'm on a yacht hanging out with Michael Jordan, I'm going to be like... I'm posting about it. Yeah. Yeah.
They have French fries at a French restaurant.
You're not? Like, why lie? Literally. He's asking. Literally.
Sorry if you can't handle that.
Okay, drag Fort Lauderdale.
This guy's a fucking bully. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we can't say fuck them kids because it wasn't the kids. It was the dad of the kid. Yeah.
So they try to be as like polite as possible and be like, that's why a lot of women say I have a boyfriend when most of the time they don't have a boyfriend because they don't want to give their number away. You know, like I think People are going to read this how they want to. You know, I read this as definitely how Blake said it.
I also do think there's still a group of people who think like gluten allergies are a crock of shit. And so I feel like maybe he heard like, I don't know.
She also could have been like, I'll buy the cookies, but I don't want the cookies. She doesn't have to buy the cookies, though.
Hey, the kids aren't doing this to buy a Range Rover.
Give me a fucking break. The F word is flying out of your mouth this morning.
You know, I see an uncomfortable woman who just is constantly trying to be like, I think we should talk. Let's just talk. Like, if this part was supposed to be kissing and touching and... neck smelling and whatever, then they would have had an intimacy coordinator because that's all intimacy. So I think Blake being like, let's just talk. Let's have conversation. And I don't know.
The kid's like, you asked if this is the original.
Well, what if, like, the kid couldn't, what if no one was buying the kid's cookies and the dad was like, you know what, honey, like, I'll take them to work and there's a bunch of people there and they're going to support you, honey. It's all right. Don't worry. Like, we'll get you the, we'll get you the whatever you get when you sell your cookies. Okay, Tiny Tim. And then that's what happens.
Then he should have bought them himself. He was just trying to help his kid out.
He was talking shit about her.
He was talking shit about her.
Good for her. Nonsense.
I see it how Blake says it. I'm sure people are going to see it how Justin describes it.
I think also Kyle being like, you know, telling, I don't know if it was Bose or more of the woman, but she was like, she's always been fine with me texting him. And like now all of a sudden she's not. And it's like, well, yeah, now all of a sudden they're separated. So like, of course she would not be okay with you continuing to talk to him. Yeah.
I definitely think it was wrong of Bose to be like, read the text. Because it's not for both. Like, she needs to be like, you need to go read the text to Dorit. Like, Kyle should not have opened up the phone at Chuck E. Cheese.
She should have immediately, if like, if she was ever going to read this text, it should have been with a sit down with her and Dorit and she should have read Dorit the text. For Bose to be like, why don't you read me the text? It's like, well, Bose, like, yeah.
That was definitely a producer thing. That was not Kyle being like, I want to go right after her surgery.
Only if our daughter's name was Mercedes or Range Rover. Range Rover would be a beautiful name for a baby girl. I mean, like, they had to get her a Porsche. Her name was Porsche.
It makes so much sense.
And they're, I mean, like... I mean, yeah, they're filthy rich. They're loaded. Like, let them get the kid a Porsche.
I feel like you gotta get the Zeltima. Civic. Honestly, have y'all seen that trend where it's like if these weren't names of like things, it would be such pretty names and it's like gonorrhea.
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Wow, that's crazy.
Also, it was interesting that, you know, this man who is all about women threw Jenny Slate's nose under the bus.
Remember, I've never believed in myself. I start now.
How did you balance motherhood and being a full time working?
Wow. Have either of them watched Big Bang Theory?
But who's also not even in the room.
We have an almost one year old. Oh, yeah. We're like planning for.
No clown. No clown.
I was going to say.
And then by the end of it, he proposes to one person and they are engaged. Okay. Yes.
Oh, that's hard.
On your season?
You already got this. It came down. It's Alexi. It's definitely not Alexi. Do you think it's Alexi?
Alexa?
She's a ketchup kid. Yeah, she's a ketchup kid.
How do you feel about that? She's good with kids. She's good with kids. She also could mean she's bossy.
And it's like, doesn't do karaoke ever.
She has dreams of shopping in Dubai. What does that mean? She's got money.
Yeah. How can you be very organized but terrible at folding?
Well, honestly, yeah, relatable.
Ever. You are Ally Jo.
Alicia. So she's an interior designer from Florida. And I think the fact that she drove a Barbie pink Vespa in college says enough for me. That's pretty cool. She's a pumpkin spice season queen.
Pumpkin spice.
No, she knows enough about herself. Oh, there you go. She knows that Scorpios are mysterious.
Hi, Bailey. Nice to meet you. You're a social media manager. Love that. From Atlanta.
I relate to her because her comfort items include bread and a heating pad. And if I'm not falling asleep with a heating pad on me, I won't be asleep.
I don't think zoos... No, she wants, like, in the wild.
Yeah, that is judgy. Beverly. That's my mom's name. Really?
What is Bev doing? Insurance salesperson. Her fun facts include closet is color coordinated. Same. So is mine. True story. I feel like if your closet isn't color coordinated, you need to grow up.
That was my doing. Lovely.
You have to color block the books. Her first concert was the Jonas Brothers. Jonas Brothers.
Oh, we've moved on to Carolina. Carolina?
Carolina? She's from Puerto Rico. She's a PR producer. Oh. Don't know what that means, but she describes her vibe as cool grandma. Her pet peeve is menus with no photos. I can stand by that. I do want to see a photo of what I am reading. Why?
But it is giving maybe not right reasons.
Because I feel like Nikki Glaser wouldn't roast... A cool grandma. A cool grandma. She wouldn't.
Yeah. I see that. Chloe with every vowel she could possibly find. Model, 27. You know what? This is Serena Kerrigan's ex-assistant. Oh, really? Yes.
Oh, friend of show. She posted that this was her ex-assistant. I wonder why ex. Why did she fire her? She went on The Bachelor. Or why'd she quit? Yeah. She loves a dirty martini. Well, sometimes people move on. I don't know. She still sleeps with her baby blanket. Hashtag no shame. Did she write the hashtag?
Dreams of seeing herself on a billboard in New York City. These are some... She's here for the right reasons. They are exposing themselves. She's a model.
It makes sense. Okay, you're right. You're right.
Okay, you're right. Christina, 26, marketing director from Fargo.
Look at that.
That's a deep cut. She hopes to start a clothing line inspired by her grandparents. She needs to talk to Cool Grandma Lady. She does need to talk to Cool Grandma Lady, but I also want to know why her grandparents... Her grandparents are like 50 years old. They're not that old. Like...
You're not wrong. All right. We have Dina. She's an attorney from Chicago. Has never met anyone who is cleaner and more organized than she is. Is this a competition? That could mean nothing.
Yeah.
And she just wishes she had more time to read for fun. I guess she does probably read a lot of boring... The things that lawyers read. Right, yeah. They read briefs.
A court and thorn of roses. Claims. Ella, 25, luxury travel host from LA. What does that mean? I don't know. She loves to play badminton. She prefers glamping over camping. Growing up, Ella's fave look was a shirt with Justin Bieber's face on it.
Yeah. What would be your fun facts?
Okay.
Perfect. No one is more organized.
Okay. Janae, 28, account coordinator from Colorado.
Has a rose tattoo on her forearm. Coincidence? Hmm. So do I. And it's also not a coincidence that I married a bachelor and have a rose tattoo.
It is a foreshadowing.
Mine?
Yeah.
I did. I manifested that I would marry a bachelor. Her love language is FaceTime. Okay.
Why don't you love that her love language is FaceTime? No, that wasn't it. Oh, Juliana, 28, client service associate from Newton, Massachusetts. What's a client service associate?
Okay. I mean, she wants to own a dog friendly bar one day and I'm here for it, I guess. People are bringing their dogs anyways, right? I don't know. Who's turning down dogs these days?
Is there a place in the United States that says no dogs?
Yeah.
They're just like, leave me home. They just want to be wherever. Are there a bunch of dog beds and like toys laying around?
Right. Right. Kelsey, 26, interior designer from Brooklyn, New York. She wants a study empire building under Kris Jenner.
Kylie, 26, retail manager from Wilmington, North Carolina. She lived in Uganda for four months and her favorite movie is Pearl Harbor. Interesting.
All right. Latia, venture capitalist from Salt Lake City, is an incredibly fast swimmer. Loves a good personality test.
Personality test. Loves being outside, but hates hiking. Like, truly loathes it.
Exactly.
Natalie, love her. Oh. From the jump. PhD student. You love her. In what we don't know. We don't know because it's not one of the facts.
She's from Louisville. That's true. She's still a student. She's not a breakfast person. Her love language is gift givings, and she's a Seattle Seahawks fan.
Okay, Natalie. Niecy. Niecy. Pediatrician. We like a doctor. We immediately love her from South Carolina. Always wanted to be a spy. I get that. Would love an invite to the annual Kardashians. That means she's going to spy on him. That's all I hear.
She wants an invite to the Kardashians Christmas party.
Loves experimenting with different coffees. I cannot relate. I feel like you find one and you're good, right? Why would you?
And also, I feel like pediatrician is hard. You got to like. Yeah. They are. I mean, after our pediatrician had to look in our daughter's ears one too many times, she hates him. Oh, yeah. You know.
Parisa, pediatric. There's a lot of pediatrics.
That's also talent to be able to be a whiz with PowerPoint. And I wonder if she was nervous with the TikTok shutdown for the 12 hours. Was she like super high strung? She couldn't relax? That's true. She had no way to relax. She had no way to relax at all.
Organization content, she says.
Radhika is an attorney in New York. She brunches regularly.
That's expensive in New York. That means day drinking.
Bucket list item is to kiss someone in the rain. She is going to the right place. They will be pouring water on her and Grant in no time.
Yep. Big fan. Rebecca, 31, ICU nurse from Dallas, has never met an animal she didn't like.
Yeah, of like, holy fuck. What are you wearing?
And we have an RN, Rose. I wonder if her name is a coincidence to her going on the show. She admits she's a terrible dancer and thinks Julie Andrews is the ghost.
Yeah.
Great films. Serafina. I feel like she has to be a mermaid. Associate media director.
What is that?
She really wants to learn how to play tennis. Rocked a bob during her college years. I know.
Has seen every episode of Grey's Anatomy at least three times. Interesting. She must have a lot of free time because that is a lot of TV to have to watch. They're still going. They're still going. Correct. Also, she's in New York. There might not be a tennis court. There's not a tennis court in every neighborhood in New York. There's clubs. All right. Savannah, wedding planner.
They got to get married too. She's from Charlottesville, Virginia. She loves a competitive game of charades.
Yeah, she wants everyone to be as invested as she is or it's not fun.
Yeah, dreams of planning the Met Gala one day. Oh, that's fun. That is fun. That's interesting. Has a serious fear of owls. What did they ever do to you? Vicky, 28, nightclub server in Las Vegas.
Takes pride in her calves of steel. Okay. Would love to see those. Not herself without lip liner. Her and our girl who doesn't leave the house without lipstick. Oh, yes. And she wants to live on a vineyard in Italy.
All right. And our last woman of grant season, Zoe, 27, tech engineer and model.
Nothing makes her happier than puppies and babies.
Can't and won't live without tacos.
I won't ask her to either. And honestly, I can't and I won't either. Was the first female wrestler to join her high school wrestling team.
Yeah.
Who do we feel like is our our grants front runner? Did anyone stand out to you?
No, you don't remember anyone. I mean, there's no wrong answer.
I feel like you have to go with Natalie because she's a Ph.D. student. You have to stick with your Ph.D.
OK, I'm going to call it right now. Nisi. OK, I feel like she's definitely. But they all seem lovely.
Juliana.
There was one girl from Dallas.
So maybe that's.
I'm sure you'll have plenty of answers in the comments.
Yeah. I think. Okay. Well, you know.
Oh, boy. Ally Jo. Ally Jo. Oh, you think?
I feel like Ally Jo, because she's a boxing trainer, is going to have some beef with Zoe because Zoe was the wrestling team and wrestling and boxing. I feel like kind of.
How much do you want to bet they're going to make Savannah, who has a serious fear of owls, do a photo shoot with owls?
All right. Well, we'll see.
It is so funny to have you guys here and just to see your real personalities. Yeah, I feel like y'all are so scary and intimidating and kind of like funny in a way just because it's so, the stuff that y'all come up with to say is so mean and so bizarre.
It's funny.
What has this season of Special Forces been like for y'all?
It's sad because I feel like she really... She wanted to believe in that relationship. Yeah, and also I feel like she really was trying to prove to the haters that they're good. I feel like the world, the internet was against their relationship and they were constantly trying to poke holes in it and be like,
he's a liar and he did this and he did that, obviously not being behind closed doors with them. And I feel like she really tried to like fight that and like put that on the back burner. And I mean, obviously we don't know what happened, but it is sad that they're broken up.
It's okay.
Do you think the same person who he's alleging unfollowed Haley was the same person that liked the posts from Beyonce's mom and commented that from Josh Allen's ex? There is one freak out there.
She's outside in the car.
He also has a baby, and I know that River will touch my phone, and I'm like, oh my God, how did you get, how are you DMing this person? Or how are you liking this photo? Or how are you on Google searching that? Exactly.
You know, they could be slim. They also could not be.
There you go.
Yeah, they have so many crazy stories. I feel like they...
It's hard to believe that the stuff that they do is real. It's just crazy stories.
Yeah. I'm locked in. I feel like it's Emmy carrying. Emmy and Will are carrying. That's the only reason I'm tuned in, right? It's like see the craziness of their relationship.
Yeah.
She turned on the... What is it called on the TV?
it usually doesn't happen usually the guys will like got your back man won't say anything and they're like yeah you're really a bad boyfriend he said awful things terrible also the way that I mean and maybe that's just the way he acts typically but I feel like I'm so in tune with like everything Nick does that like the second he breathes differently I'm like are you okay is something going on like you know and the way that he was being so weird sitting on that couch and she wasn't like are you good
We don't give her any screen time, but she will always go for the TV. I know she turned on the TV.
No, I think he went and told a bunch of people that he thought he was gay.
Well, I feel like that whole situation, like him remembering that was probably him only remembering that because TJ brought it up to him. Like, I feel like maybe if TJ would have never said anything about it, then he would have never remembered that he rolled over and put his arm around him. But I think because TJ went to him and was like, you cuddled me last night.
Then he's like, okay, well, the explanation for that is I was blacked out. I'm used to sleeping with a girl. I like to cuddle.
Yeah.
No, TJ's walked away every time Joe's come up to him and Will as they're talking and he tries and TJ walks off.
I'm pretty good with tech.
It's also like why Maddie went to Emmy's house to be like, I need to tell her about this and then didn't even say anything. And it's like, yeah, what are these people do? How can you say you're friends with these people if like you can't? The first thing I would do if I heard something about my friend is like go directly to my friend and ask that question.
It's like the way that none of these people can do that.
It's a... So I think Jack did it. That's my... Jack the Baby? Jack the Baby. Jack the Baby. Jack Blue.
Also kind of fucked up of like to put them all in the same room. That too.
River and lagoon. Goonie.
Rain. That's a lot of people who have an R. They do roads, river, rain. They're all in that. Bayou. Bayou.
Fjord.
You know who I'll log off and never show their face again? Tell me who. Mark Zuckerberg. Speaking of oligarchs.
Mark Zuckerberg full on was checking out Lauren Sanchez's Jeff Bezos wife's chest during the inauguration.
Did you see the photo of him, Mark, with his wife? And he's like on his phone and you can tell he's like, no, babe, it's the angle. Like if you if you would zoom in, you could see my eyes are looking across her, not at her.
Isn't his defense that it was like not a real gun or something?
I don't even think you need to be inappropriately touched in the workplace. I think any woman who's been in a bar and a man has like tried to dance with them or made advances, did anything that made you uncomfortable. And like, I think a lot of women struggle with like embarrassing a man or like standing up for themselves and being like, I don't want to be touched.
Especially for having two kids, two small children at home.
Well, they clearly think that they have a strong enough case to go to trial and like put him on the stand in front of jurors.
Justin? Justin? Justin? Justin? Is Janet still a crowd favorite?
Yeah. Didn't they ask for a jury trial not too long ago? Which I'm kind of sad about, but I'm glad I don't need to look forward for jury duty anymore. Yeah, right. Checking the mail every day.
Yeah, in my opinion, she did.
Which is just not coming back. That is the worst in Bravo world. And Alexis wants to come back. So bad.
May I never have to see your wedding special.
Or just fall into oblivion. What? Hearing you say that word. Poop stain? Yeah.
I'm just confused because both Emily and Shane are lawyers and they're well off. I'm surprised that they didn't have this woman sign an NDA if she's going to be spending every day in your house.
But if you hired a stranger, would you? No. That's what I'm saying. It's one thing if it's like a connection to like a friend. But I'm like, I think was this woman. I mean, yeah, I guess that would be a good question is like, where did you meet this nanny?
Like, I just think it's gross anytime anybody comes out after the fact where it's like you're going to add something where clearly you're in a position of trust. And now you're just trying to get a headline or, you know.
Yeah, I agree.
It's weird using the kids as mouthpieces for drama when you're grown adults and established human beings. You know what I mean? They all have careers. You guys don't have anything else to talk about than bring up what maybe a six-year-old said. I'm surprised that that even made it for a storyline, to be honest.
I'll say something more soon or something. Oh, God. Not the, oh, Jesus.
No. Lala gets her own. Lala goes on Watch What Happens Live. She has her Amazon Live. And I'm not going to lie. Her on Watch What Happens Live last night, I miss her on my television. I like Lala.
She's technically more so a friend of Dorit this season. Very true.
She is. You got what you wanted. Do you remember?
You said you wanted single, smoking cigarettes, wearing leather, and I know you've got two out of three in the first episode.
She changed her hair color, and it is perfection. I don't know that Dorit has ever looked so hot, but this is her season.
Did we meet new housewives? Bozeman. We love Bozeman.
She calls her boss. The boss. No, she's a personality that was perfection.
Instant.
Well, people are going to think you have a midlife crisis getting that tattoo. Wow. So good, isn't it? Thank you. It's pretty good.
Thank you.
Yeah. Morgan is Miley times 10.
I watched it, too, and there was a poll that I took online because it was like, are you going to watch Beverly Hills live? If so, are you just going to roll into New York? And it was 61 percent. People said they will not be watching New York after Beverly Hills while watching it live.
Yeah, I thought Brynn was just trying to act like she was in on it. And then they showed the clip of her talking to Uba and talking her down. And I was like, what a waste. Brynn still did think that Rebecca was pregnant. She just thought that she was pregnant with her husband's child. She knew that the pregnant, the other man was the joke.
Yeah, that the joke was.
When three of the women are trying to get pregnant or talking about wanting to get pregnant and then you're like, hee hee, I can make a joke while I'm breastfeeding. It is a little insensitive.
not in like a grand scheme, but at the same time when I'm talking in your initial group and the people you're playing the jokes on when three of them want to have babies and are struggling.
Well, the prank would have been even better, too, if it's like the audience was in on it. But I also feel the whole like exposing it for a second episode. Like, why are we still talking about this? And yet you played the joke on us, essentially. It's not funny.
wait for the next three episodes for the season to end?
Like, we want to talk about this? It was the finding each other's eyeline.
Gold is happening.
They're chameleons.
Well, also, Dorit's married to a Brit, but she lived in Italy for 10 years, so I'm like, I just think she's just got one of those, like, woman of the world accents. You can't fully place it.
It is giving woman of the world.
Well, the thing is... She demands it this season, so it's not even like it's an option.
And she did.
I like to think of you just like this floating head that's camouflaged in a hole.
I would.
Larsa's the worst. And this, yes. And then she said, hello.
Oops.
Do you think everybody was like leaning into the villain role or is this like an actual genuine depiction of people's personalities?
Was that your same intention putting him up this week?
The Tiffany Pollard, Miss New York versus Teresa, was that... Just such big personalities. I'm like, what was that like in the house, them going at each other?
Yeah.
What was the biggest difference for you going into House of Villains? Because I know that you've already had reality TV experience with Drag Race and outside of the competition aspect. Like, do you feel like you were prepared going into this or is this a whole different ballgame?
Can I ask you about Cherry Blossom? I've heard that you were given that name by Lana Del Rey. Is there a story behind that?
But that's just nuts. I also love that he didn't Like, they didn't prepare the UFC fighter for it at all. Like, the UFC fighter was like, I have no idea who he is. Like, you would think it would be, like, some sort of clause or something if I'm going to pay you.
A thousand percent, because that's who he is.
Will I see a picture of River on a mini horse? Potentially. God.
Embryos.
Oh, what? Venison. Veal. Veal, there you go. Who eats veal? Do we eat baby chickens? No.
No.
That's gross.
No, I just think a fear factor when they have those like thousand year, hundred year preserved eggs and it's like the baby chicken fetus. That's why I was like, I know it wouldn't be a chicken nugget because you wouldn't make that many. You'd have to. A lot of chicks would be used to make chicken nuggets. I hate this conversation. All right. On that note.
Were you the star of baking the cookies since you got to choose your outfit?
42.
You just got them all.
Or jumping on the bed. Or jumping on the bed.
Can you sit up?
Do we think it talks back? I don't think it talks. I think it did. No, I think it doesn't talk. It interacts and like if you tell it what to do, it'll mimic you, but I don't think it talks.
Beverly Hills.
A photo shoot. A photo shoot.
Absolutely not. No, that's a little weird. Yeah.
Didn't we just say Lamar Odom bought a sex doll of his ex-wife? Literally. It gives me the heebie-jeebies. I don't like it.
When you thought Her was just a sci-fi movie and it's actually a documentary. Oh, my God. Scary.
Hannah and Nick.
And on certain days of the week, too, it's closed. But it's also, it seems like they've all, like, hooked up with each other. Like, it seems like this, like, very, like, incestuous, like, Brittany brought her date, and Heather was like, oh, I made out with him, like, 16 years ago. Small town.
Awesome. Love.
And we were turned off.
It's a docu-series.
On the lives of secret.
Yeah.
You got the soft swinging. Wow. It went crazy. Oh, it's so good. It's worth a watch. Fruity Pebbles.
You'll find out. You gotta watch.
Yeah.
Yeah. Wait, do we love that?
I was going to say, do you think that your instincts change once you have a kid? Because it's like now you're not thinking about just like being afraid for yourself. You're now like, I need to protect my child. Ja, es erinnert mich an Dorit mit dem Break-In und wie sie mit den Raubern über meine Kinder, bitte nicht.
Mal sehen, ob sie wieder auf dem Grid ist. Her face is back on his Instagram feed. She has been unarchived.
They're going strong. She admitted she was wrong.
dass sie verurteilt hat, dass Tom mit einem Freund verabschiedet hat oder so etwas. Und dass es war wie, was sie veröffentlicht hat, war wie, ihr seid richtig, ihr wisst, oder ihr versucht, mir zu sagen, oder so etwas. Und dann hat sie es verabschiedet.
Ich habe es als eine Verbrechung genommen, dass er ein Verbrecher war.
He has a child brain.
Her statement was, wow, you guys were right. Tiger never changes its stripes. He loves the best friends. Apparently, I feel like a fool, completely heartbroken, and that insinuates he loves the best friends, like how he loved Ariana's best friend, Raquel.
Yes. Schwartz, Lala, and Sheena are moving over to the Valley, or at least having cameos there.
Nein, Sandoval war nicht Teil der Equation.
Oh, Mann.
Zack hatte eine Antwort darauf.
But the balance, where there's darkness, there's light, because this is all good stuff for Kristen. Kristen announces that she's pregnant on the same day that Shorts and Sandys is closed. VPR is cancelled. She's pregnant and she has a job on the Valley. So Kristen's having a great 2025 and that's all I care about.
I was going to say, there's a big ominous rumor going around that there is a housewife couple that you would least expect is getting a divorce, but she had to stay to keep up the image. And they've almost done it before. And they've speculated on pretty much every Bravo couple. It was Meredith and Seth. It was Whitney and Justin. And it's just like, why don't you guys just shut the fuck up?
Not Mary writing the next storyline for the next season.
Eight years later.
Season 12 of The Bachelorette was in 2016. You're criticizing Aaron. I'm just saying, why are we still talking about it eight years later?
It's his documentary. It's his Martha. But I'm like, was this pressing news that people needed to hear information? I needed to hear it.
Yeah, when you put it like that, I just like, hey, didn't realize that this was still an ongoing feud. I was like, this happened eight years ago, why do we care? Someone called Ryan Murphy.
Aber die Dolphins sind es auch.
Well, his mom was being creative. I guess. A name of a man who will break your heart.
Well, if it's happening right now, I choose him. Does he drive a Toyota?
Holiday plans.
Okay. I'll be here for Christmas and then New Year's I am going to Canada and I'm really excited for that.
Um die Vancouver-Area. Okay.
Ist das der französische?
Yeah, for sure.
No, that's an Uber Eats problem. No, it's a Postmates Uber Eats problem because I've had that happen to me. DoorDash doesn't do that shit. I've ordered from Erewhon and it's scented from Pacific Palisades. And I was like, in what world?
Because it tastes awful, but you just have to drink it. Hey, Heidi Gardner. I like a little Christmas Eve celebration. We do a little friends thing and I'm always drunk and then hungover. Christmas Eve or Christmas Day?
You've got more stuff to plan. Have you guys finished your Christmas shopping?
Nick's just gonna get River, take River to the park and get her to like grab like a handful of grass and like put it in a box and be like, River, pick this for you.
Yeah, that's true. Pick the best one. Yeah, that's true. Favorite Christmas movie? I'm so basic. I'm like Home Alone. Yeah. It holds up. Home Alone, Home Alone 2.
But it normally shows up, the air one, the same picture. So it's like you just click on it because you've ordered it 10 minutes away. And then it's like, why would you not put the one that's closest to me?
Sag mehr.
Even like old school delivering, like when you would call the store and get it delivered, it's like they had like a five block radius.
You said at reunion that he doesn't love you the way that you wanted to be loved and your time with Caleb was so wholesome. What did you learn about the way that you wanted to be loved?
Ich habe eine kurze Frage. Wir haben bemerkt, dass dein Hintergrund ein bisschen wie Scotty's sieht. Oh, stimmt das?
Scotty und Aria.
Going back a little bit, what were your thoughts about Scotty and Zana's trial marriage, watching it back? Did you see things that reflected your relationship or did it make things clearer or how we spoke about their initial connection? Okay, so...
Well, first we asked if she was single and she said yes, that she's not ready to date.
Learning about herself.
Well, she said he's in Los Angeles and she's in San Francisco. She called in at 8 in the morning. Oh, so she just lied.
Obviously. So he's saying that he hasn't been consistently sober?
What makes me happy is that he's asking for $10,000. He's not going to get it, which means I don't have to hear his side of the story. Because his side of the story is going to be a fucking lie. No one needs to pay for that.
He did the same thing to us that she did at the reunion. Yeah, that he was not like who he claimed to be kind of thing.
Once he was paired up with another woman, he was like, you know what? Let's see what it does.
But I'm saying there's there's context missing where I would love to hear from his perspective. And I wish I would have thought to ask her this. But it's like, why does she think he blocked her?
Because I'm like, there clearly had to have been some sort of something that happened to where he would hit the block button versus... Or maybe him and Mariah just came to like a, let's just like block these people from our... Remember she said, she goes, I didn't know about any of this.
Zayna war nur so, dass sie es nicht gemacht hat.
Maybe he thinks there's a chance they're going to still get back together.
Dorit is not fucking around. She's taking zero shit from anyone.
She said, see you next Tuesday.
Und Camille hat versucht, alle zu sagen, dass sie Doreen unterstützen müssen. Und dann ist sie so, naja, einige Leute hier haben mich nicht unterstützt, während meiner schwierigen Zeit. Und du kamst zu meinem Haus mit ihr. Und dann ist Erika so, mein Name ist Erika Jane.
I'm like, Camille, this is not how you fight to get back on the cast and you don't know your cast members' names. She was on seasons with Erica.
There's not one woman on that cast that has not been divorced. Literally. Like that's what I'm saying, like your isolated divorce 10 years ago from Kelsey Grammer, no difference from what Kyle's going through, Dorit is going through.
The Affair and Everything comes to light, Season 1.
There's not one movie I could even think to reference that you would know. Yeah. But he's done a lot. Okay, we'll pop off. Frasier.
The crazy thing to me that Garcelle said today, or today, on this episode, was that she thinks that Dorit was set up for her robbery and that she was like, I think Dorit happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Yeah, Sutton wasn't like, oh, well, like, ooh.
All I know is that Jennifer Tilly has like five fucking homes and I want to be her. The fact that she has two homes in Bel Air, Bel Air, right next to each other. She has a playhouse. But what is a playhouse? To have parties.
Sie sagt, sie ist ein Alkoholiker. Sie hat ein Haus in Malibu, aber sie geht nicht da, weil ein Geist dort lebt und sie nicht mag, wenn sie da ist.
I'm sure if you ask. I'm sure if you ask. Tiffany would love to come out of the house for a little bit.
Ja, 100 Prozent. Und ich bin auch irgendwie so, dass der größte Ausdruck für mich ist, dass ich mich entschieden bin, zu lernen, zu wachsen und voranzubringen. Und es ist einfach so, was ist mit den Leuten, mit denen du das gemacht hast, die haben zu lernen, zu wachsen und voranzubringen, auf ihrer eigenen Seite, von dem Trauma, das du erschaffen hast.
Yep. And her interior designer.
Ja, mein Therapist erinnert mich auch an Dinge. Ich fühle mich auch, dass Erika einen schwierigen Zeitraum hat, die Gefühle zu artikulieren oder wenn sie schmerzt.
Also ist es so, dass ich denke, dass das Kratzen sie hilft, weil sie, auch wenn sie sagte, dass ihre Geschichte mit dieser Gruppe von Frauen und wie ihre eigene Liste von sollten, die die Frau für sie gemacht hätte, in dem Sinne, dass du die Erwartungen deiner Freunde hast. Instead of saying like, hey, this isn't how this happened for me or like you guys didn't show up for me.
Instead, she gets angry or reactive. And so then it never gets the reaction from her friends that she wants, because they're like, why are you so mad? Like, you're the one in the wrong instead of it being like, I'm mad because this is how I can express my hurt. Erika just has not been able to say that.
She also did say the Lexapro and alcohol combination, you know, was not conducive to her expressing her feelings.
I said I'll defend her to the grave. I do think the Sutton and Dorit element of it though is kind of
She's a friend of even when she's not asked to be on.
Aber du wirst hier sitzen und ich muss fühlen, dass es etwas für dich gibt, dass du lernen und wachsen musst. Du musst lernen, dass du nicht deinen Partner verletzen musst.
No, it's crazy. It's still being like it.
I definitely think it's a production company. And then I'm also like, I know Lisa has a hand in what The story is right. And it's like she doesn't like Kristen. Everybody now doesn't like Kristen. Kristen gets the worst edit.
But it's like the idea that we're going to leave out context as to why Kristen did certain things to make it seem like she's the bad guy when it's like you knew what she was going through. That to me is sickening. Let alone that we see a history of her protecting the men on this show. And then it's just throwing the women to the wolves.
Ich glaube, es ist nur Kristen und Rachel, leider.
Jamie, Freunde von Sheena und Kristen. Aber ich glaube nicht, dass die anderen Castmember, wie Lala, mit James reden oder sterben. Ich glaube nicht, dass sie etwas gesagt hat. Brittany Cartwright hat es nicht gesagt.
Ich glaube nicht, dass die Mehrheit der Castmember einen Kommentar gemacht hat. Nein.
Yeah.
Sorry.
If we know anything about drag.
Yeah.
Wow.
Mm-hmm.
Nice.
Philly seems great. Philadelphia for a second. Yeah.
She also sings.
If you're dumb, you're dumb.
I love that.
100%.
No.
And I'm like, oh, fuck.
And also I know back in October they announced that Variety announced actually that Hulu was where Mormon Wife season two was going to be.
I want to hear. Are you fucking kidding me?
I get pat down every time.
It is shotgun.
They were just on strike for like being overworked. But still, I'm like, if I'm delivering a package, if anything, I'm skipping the house.
The house isn't there.
You're on the cusp. I'm also a cusper, I will say.
Yeah, no, they say that a lot of us that are from like 1999 to 2003 are the ones that like grew up like through the recession. The COVID was during our primitive years of like high school, college.
I do think people perpetuate a narrative that all Gen Z is like lazy. I do know a lot of lazy people, but I also know a lot of ambitious people.
Well, you know who isn't a Gen Z but I also think deserves respect? Paige from Summer House. Have you been seeing that she's basically the Super Bowl she was seen with her man that works for the Eagles?
I find that to be shocking. It's not a man purse. It's like a crossbody satchel.
Yeah. Good for her. It's interesting, too, because on the other side of the cast, Lindsay Hubbard unfollowed her mans. So I don't know what that means.
Oh. Well, she doesn't follow him, so.
How do we know they're at a pediatrician appointment together?
Or maybe he deleted his Instagram.
And those hands weren't inside out when they pat me down.
Harris.
Shocking.
Yeah.
What's the storyline? I don't know. You can't leave me.
Suddenly I'm watching.
But also, I'm like, is it a really issue? Like, did she just post a video in a friend's house and we made up the narrative of buying a new house? You know what I mean?
But maybe it was being cleaned.
And that's something.
So we need a love is blind season in Utah. That doesn't exist, right? No.
Like a... Good question.
Did you like the club scene that everybody's talking about?
Okay.
The front looks good.
Do we have the clip? We do.
You're so good.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was never a thing until Carolina made it a thing.
I need two hours.
It's on. It's on. It's on. It's on. It's on. It's on.
It's on. That would have been helpful five minutes ago.
100%.
Yep.
No, no, no. I do. I do. She's trying to do a callback.
No.
Okay.
100%.
Like, what are you talking about? I feel like that is causing just more issues within the family to, like, take it to the public. Yeah. You know, like, take it to a therapist. Yes.
I feel like they need a documentary or reality show.
And it was gorgeous. But it didn't show the kids and her, did it?
No. No, I need a reality show with the Beckhams.
And we did ask Lexi Wood about them and she gave a glowing review of the two of them. But definitely said, I think, that she didn't spend a lot of time with them, but she did give them a glowing review.
But you know what they do cover? That's so sad. They covered that Nick was turned on, that I was strict with the customer service people on the phone. So thank God they got that out there. That's what they picked up from that episode.
Crazy.
It's wild.
Well, Sutton Strack revealed that she let go of Avi and she also has not spoken to Garcelle since the reunion.
Yeah, that's because Garcelle isn't responding.
Well, they did, according to The Sun, they did say that Sutton, Kyle, Dorit, Bozema, and Erica are set to return full-time. And there could be between one to two new housewives. Oh, we don't know about Kathy or Jennifer Tilly quite yet on what their status is. But I guess that kind of debunks the whole like one will be right.
You know, I haven't seen Miss Brittany singing on my For You page. Has anyone done a wellness check?
I think it'll be really cool for River to be able to watch that one day and be like, oh my God, that's my babysitter.
Yeah, what the heck? Where'd that go?
We do need her and her and Kathy on their own.
Do you think he forgot to stuff a sock? If he had done nothing to Michelle their whole relationship, that is warrant for divorce.
And it was like, what do they call our full panties? I guess like period panties. He was wearing period panties. He's on day one of his period. He's got like the biggest tampon in and also the biggest pad.
And he's yelling at Jason to get out of the room and cussing.
That was a crazy thing to go on national television and wear those.
It's the side view also that troubles me. I feel like Jesse's underwear was reason number one why Michelle wanted a divorce. Literally, I stand by that.
Yeah, he's definitely putting himself. He's like casting for women. You know, he's like, all right, everyone, this is me. And if you want me, my DMs are open.
Well, speaking of Jax, they started this episode with Jax rage texting Brittany in his 15 minutes of free time in between therapy sessions.
Well, he has his his diary, his phone diary that he's recording himself on in front of a white wall.
no i get that but like and he can do that anywhere and they can play at any time but he coincidentally text britney in the middle of like because jesse told him jesse told him she said how does he know that we're in santa barbara did anyone tell him that we're in santa barbara and jesse goes oh i did i talked to him every day and she goes why would you do that it would like upset him and he was like i feel like he deserves to know no that's the mental health expert that he is oh yeah yeah
So if all of y'all are pissed that me and Nick are together, you can blame Shook.
But that is diabolical that Jax is like sending Brittany these crazy text messages and then texting Kristen at the exact same time being like, loving it here, feeling so much better about myself, feeling really healthy.
No, he is upset that he has to be there while they are filming. He wants to be filming. He wants to be on the show. He wants to be in Santa Barbara. And he's pissed off that this had to, like, go simultaneously as to filming the valley. Mm-hmm.
I did think it was really weird that Zach was like, hold on. Nia! Nia! I'm just about to get upset and I need Nia to hold my hand because I'm getting emotional. I was like, what is happening?
She's a dainty flower.
What's your favorite thing about our relationship?
And then Zach's like pissed off at Brittany for telling her the horrible things that he said about her. He's like, why would you tell her that? She's like, because they were bad. He's like, no, I know. But why would you tell her? Well, I feel like maybe if y'all are going to continue to hang out, she should know what you said behind her back.
Can we talk about why Jax was like, listen, my wife, and it was in sickness and in health, and I'm sick. It's like, I'm sure also in your vows, it was like, I don't know, maybe, like, not cheat on your wife, not call her horrible, horrible names. But, like, none of those matter. Just like, you're sick. Yeah.
I also feel like the performance at the healing ceremony between Jesse and Michelle was a little much for me. Jesse's like, I can't put anything in the circle because I'm too emotional right now. And then him being like, I'm grateful that I'm in this toxic situation, but my daughter is not like, you know, she's still thriving. And then for him to immediately like throw it to Michelle.
Was the question, what are you most grateful for in life?
No, why was Michelle's answer like, I'm grateful that we chose to the day we decided to get pregnant was like because it was a gratitude ball.
No, they're in the middle of a divorce. I wish she would have said something about her current boyfriend that she's grateful about, though, to really just.
She also went on Watch What Happens Live. And she's like, well, if Jesse's happy, then he needs to go be happy and leave me the fuck alone. They're both saying the same thing to each other.
And even Michelle called him out with that the first episode where they like sit down together to talk about the schedule of like Isabella going back and forth and he starts crying and she's like, don't do this. Don't start crying and you make me look cold and like you put on these tears and it was like read him his rights.
That's also what we do with all of our guests.
We haven't said it in a while, but we are judging the characters on TV. We don't know any of these people personally besides Kristen Doty, of course. And we do love her and we do. But a lot of them, we don't. And we realize that there's an edit and we realize that they're not in control of that edit. And we could be completely wrong about these people.
She's not our nanny. She's not our babysitter. She's our sister mom. That's right. Thank you.
The only thing we're not wrong about are those panties that Jesse was wearing.
We did get to know Abby and David from Love on the Spectrum. Okay, this excites me. No, they are the best.
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We watched it like two weeks ago. Yeah, we started showing our daughter the original Disney movies, and it's been so fun to relive them and watch them back again. Aww. You remember all the songs, like Abby was saying? It's crazy.
I think he was 21.
All of it in Toronto?
You're booked and busy in Toronto. You have no time for nothing else.
Sometimes the Wi-Fi is a little slow. It allows for some lag.
But also a non-stop 48 hours because I haven't stopped talking.
It's fun, I bet.
Is that your favorite park at Disney?
Why is that your favorite park? All the animals?
You haven't?
What's your favorite animal?
My favorite animal is a lioness. Did y'all know that about each other or was that something you learned very early on?
Now, fun. Do y'all celebrate your anniversary every year?
You do. Okay, what do y'all do?
Cheesecake Factory is a staple. I love Cheesecake Factory. So good.
So good.
Do y'all feel like marriage is something that y'all eventually will get to?
That is so cool that y'all went to Africa.
What was it about that 6? The 6th one I didn't watch anyways because you weren't in it. What, 6th episode?
Season 2.
Yeah, the Brian Higgins who was in the house with the Alberts.
I did eat octopus before. Has he ever eaten anything or drank anything that you thought was gross?
Brian Higgins is a friend of John O'Keefe in the Alberts. He's an ATF agent. John O'Keefe was a Boston cop. And they all went back to the Alberts house. And supposedly to Karen Reed, she was like, go see the vibe, do a vibe check. And he went in to do a vibe check and then didn't come back out. And she was getting pissed. So she's calling him being like, Can I come in? Like, what's the vibe?
Yeah, because she's lava. So you don't like spicy foods at all now, probably?
I bet. I was there.
So the red ball is a number two.
What number is green? Five.
He's not answering. So she gets pissed off. She's like, fuck you. I'm going home. Leaves. And then he never comes home. She's blowing his phone up the whole night being like, you motherfucker. Like, she thinks he's out there cheating on her. And she wakes up. He's still not home. So she freaks out. She's calling Jen McCabe. She's calling Carrie Roberts. She's like, where is John?
Yeah. Was there anyone in Disney that you related to, David?
How do you choose which one to go on to next?
Play it safe. Y'all have been on this show for three years now, three seasons. How do you feel like your lives have changed since being famous and on Netflix?
Yeah.
Does that make, like when people come up and they, do they ask for photos with y'all?
Does that make you nervous or does that make you excited?
Zero. They have the zero gravity.
They're like, we don't know. Come pick us up. We'll help you look for him. Why don't y'all call him? You know, isn't that weird? Why weren't they like, oh, let me try him. Maybe he'll answer my call. Nope. They're just like, come pick us up. Then they go back to John O'Keefe's house. Like, why go back there? That's just where Karen Reed woke up and he wasn't home. So then they're driving around.
But how did you do it? Did you just talk yourself into it? Did you have encouragement? How did you face that fear?
Do you have any advice that you would give maybe someone who's listening to this or watching this that maybe doesn't feel seen or doesn't feel like they can find their own voice? Do you have any advice that you'd give them?
What was that like as a child to want to talk but not be able to talk?
They go back to 34 Fairview where she dropped him off for the party.
What was the first thing that you said? Remember?
and they go back to 34 Fairview, and she sees John O'Keefe laying in the snow, and she's like, oh, my God, there he is, jumps out of the car. The two women with her are like, where? We don't see him. There's so much snow. We don't know where he is. You know what's crazy is Jen McCabe stays in the car while Karen Reed and Carrie Roberts go out there like... Perform CPR on him.
I don't know.
That's why that number two red ball is there.
David, how did that feel for you to be able to support Abby in that way when she's doing something so big?
Did you give her a standing ovation and start clapping and standing when she finished?
What's an ovation? When everyone stands up and everyone's clapping. 6,000 people is a lot of people. It's crazy. It's a lot of people. Yeah.
Jen McCabe calls 911 sitting in the car. But guess what? What? Karen Reed was calling John O'Keefe's phone as they roll up to 34 Fairview. And he doesn't answer, obviously. So it goes on to voicemail. And she jumps out of the car because she sees him. The voicemail is still running. Jen McCabe is on the phone, in the car.
The voicemail on John O'Keefe's phone picks up everything Jen McCabe is saying on the phone. She got off the phone with 911, calls her sister, who is married to Brian Albert, who is in the house, and says really quietly in a very low voice, Why? Why are you warning your sister that someone's coming that like the police are coming to check on the dead body in your front yard?
It's getting very suspicious. And Brian Higgins was also in the house and he like took his SIM card out of his phone and ripped it up or bent it, broke it, threw it in a trash can along with his phone, then gotten his car, drove to a military base to dispose of his phone and his SIM card. Why? Why? What was on your phone? Wait, what was his explanation?
We took our daughter, River, to the zoo not too long ago.
It was just like a regular zoo, but she got to pet a kangaroo.
Yeah. Is there like a dream animal besides a lion to see in person?
One of them was another Boston cop. He was in the, yeah, he had life-saving capabilities. He was Jen McCabe's brother-in-law, Brian Albert, and she, like, never once thought, oh, maybe I should go inside, wake up my brother-in-law to, like, actually perform CPR because Karen Reed doesn't know what she's doing.
Would you ever want to work at a zoo? Or do you just want to open up your own animal?
Wait, Abby, what's your favorite voice that David does for your stuffed animals?
I will. It's because Romeo's so cute. I will.
They're so sweet. I love them. And I'm so glad that her mom came. She seems just like such a wonderful woman.
Never once did she say, let me go inside and get some blankets because it's freezing out here in the snow to like warm up his body. It's very suspicious. Did he explain why he broke his phone? I think it was along the lines of like, well, you know, I just do that when I'm done with phones.
Also, the fact that Abby was nonverbal for so much of her life, and now she's singing in front of massive crowds and on national television is just so magical. And I'm so happy for her and love both of them.
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It's so nice that you're finally interested in us.
Have you always been like that or did like having kids make it worse? Because I feel like I've been awful since having a baby. I'll be like, oh, read that. And then she does something and I never look at it again.
And this played last night and you were falling asleep while we were trying to watch the documentary. So the whole thing that they're pinning Karen Reid on is like she used her car and backed into him. And that's why she has a broken taillight. That's what killed him. And she does have a broken taillight.
How do you balance all of that?
A little pick me.
They're saying that, like, she was drunk. It was dark.
Yeah, you would think, for sure. But they don't, they didn't really care about any of that. So, yeah, so they show, so then Karen Reid is like, well, how did I get this broken taillight? Like, honestly, like, she was like, maybe I hit him, but I don't, like, I really don't think I did.
Especially coming from someone, though, who like you have been so busy your whole relationship. You know, you've you've had this illustrious career in football that's taken, like you just said, like a lot of your time. How did you like stay connected and manage like a healthy relationship through all that?
She was drunk. And then they watch back the ring footage of her like at John O'Keefe's house and she had backed into his car on her way out. Oh. And then they show footage from the like auto body shop that this trooper Proctor who is crooked and thank God he's fired. Why is he crooked?
Well, let me finish this this part, too. They take her car to the auto body shop to like investigate it and they flip. They have the camera mirrored. Right. So you can't see what's happening on the left side of her car where that broken taillight is.
There's like someone over there doing something and it is giving Agent Proctor, Trooper Proctor, took off some pieces from her broken taillight, put them in his pocket, went back to the 34 Fairview and like sprinkled them all along the front lawn. Because people had done searches. They didn't find anything. They had like taken a leaf blower and like blew the snow around.
We were also joined by Abby's mom, which I thought was so interesting to get to just like pick her brain about everything she's been through.
Speaking of your incapability to read, do your kids, like, I know when Nick reads to River, I'm always like, I'm so sorry, honey. This is rough. I know you're trying to pay attention, but it's hard. Do your kids kind of call you out and be like, dad, what?
They didn't find any pieces of taillight. And then all of a sudden they have like the search team go out there and there's like 47 pieces of broken taillight.
Was there anyone that you like kind of were secretly rooting for to win? Yeah.
That's wild, yeah. Is there any show that you are a fan of or you're not a fan of that you would maybe want to host next?
Like, what? And on those pieces of taillight was John O'Keefe's DNA and two other males' DNA. And like our Lord and Savior Grace Alan Jackson said, if the Commonwealth doesn't want to change their theory to Karen Reid now hit three men... with her car, then their theory is wrong.
He was also Kevin Spacey's lawyer, which, you know, I wasn't involved in that case.
oh that's why he's out and crying about being broke yeah anyways let's not taint the karen no no no no i don't know anything about the kevin spacey hayes all i do know is that he was the same lawyer and i i just have to say that i am team karen reed and like if you're not i don't really give a fuck so please don't dm go watch the departed and tell me that karen reed
Maybe like neither of them need to go on the show. Set them up.
I feel like there has been nonstop, like, fighting between Nicola and Victoria Beckham, right? Like, I feel like we're always seeing speculation that they hate each other.
I got married at 25.
I feel like I would pay David Beckham to verbally berate me, but.
Okay.
That is true.
What?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, we're so lovely, dude. I don't...
Oh, I love that.
He's in my maintenance.
Really?
Yeah.
Nope. Justin speaks.
Hey.
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It was a pair of like tights for sure.
We gave up on the rest of the season, but started on the reunion.
I don't understand how people can be upset with her for not sharing about Scientology when Jenna Lyons doesn't open up about anything.
Yeah. So it's like this is just like this is a religion to her. Why does she have to open up about her religion and Jenna Lyons doesn't have to open up about any personal parts of her own life?
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She's definitely... Like she didn't think anyone would figure it out and then they did in five seconds and she was like, no, no, no, no, no.
They're like, just go up there and say what you feel. Yeah.
What is a fear for us?
But we've also made mistakes in life, and maybe this is just Marcus Jordan making a mistake in life. I don't know. Yeah, sure.
But that doesn't mean he can't make mistakes.
Yeah. I mean, you're putting other people's lives at risk. You're, you know...
He admitted to drinking at a gentleman's club earlier in the evening, did not undergo a breathalyzer test, did not perform well on the three-field sobriety test. After he was placed under arrest, Jordan had his pocket searched with cops reportedly finding a substance testing positive for cocaine. He was reportedly singing the entire way to jail.
Page Six confirmed that Marcus's bond was set at $4,000. That's it.
You get arrested for DUI and cocaine. And they're like, yeah, sure, four grand. I mean, it's also Florida. Probably possession. State by state.
He's 34 years old. Dad, I just got arrested. Can you bail me out? I'm sure he calls his dad's assistant. Yeah. Yeah. One of them.
My brain cells.
Dude. I think it's clear.
No, it makes pretty clear sense to me.
They broke up in November at Thanksgiving.
Yep. They broke up Thanksgiving weekend. They were like, let's just like, they did what no one else is clearly doing in the social media celebrity platform world, a la Matt James, Rachel, Zach, Brian, and they took some time, right? They were like, we're not going to announce it. Let's just like process whatever.
i think that's probably more so him being on a national tv show put on the spot and him and his girlfriend are broken up they haven't announced it to the world and they're asking like what his plans are with his girlfriend and he's like oh yeah just be at my house like he's like i don't this is this a place to announce that we're i feel like had he gone and watched what happens live and been like well actually we're broken up the internet would have crucified him and like accused him of something very similar to a matt james which is just like well the
I think Craig's stance on that was like, I'm just not talking about the breakup at all. I think he was like, I'm going to say my one piece and then I'm not going to continue talking about it.
I don't know. I think it's valid on both sides. It's like seems pretty.
Someone's going to get hurt regardless. It's a breakup. Someone's feelings are going to get hurt. Someone's not going to handle it the right way. Someone's going to do something that pisses someone. It's a breakup. You can't handle it perfectly. I agree. I don't know why they're coming for Craig, though.
Yes. What is it called again?
It's a good title, yeah.
cheese but texas you're a country boy i don't know if we necessarily claim texas as like their cow but it's cowboy okay rodeo you know and also listen she's making an argument okay i have against i have against arguments as well i'm unbiased texas road mary is unbiased i'm unbiased has banjo in it there is a banjo
It is turning into a snooze fest.
It was kind of sad.
Because PK then like told the girls at Kathy Hilton's little tea party or whatever that he's like threatening to sue her for like full custody. He's like going to pull all of his money.
Well, yeah. And now finding out that because what you say. Yeah, he's he's threatening financials expectations within a month or two. Discussion of custodies, lawyers, threats of divorce.
If he thinks he's on the same level as Mauricio, he needs to back it up.
But if PK thinks he's going to be on the top of a mountain in Aspen with Anita, like it's just not going to happen.
I mean, I also think it might have something to do with like, you know, the kids grew up and it's like once kids grow up and are out of the house, it's like focus is now back on us. And it's like, is our relationship as strong as it was when we were having these kids?
Listen, anything Kathy says, I want to hear. Me too.
I loved her on FaceTime.
I loved her on FaceTime with Bose being like, are those puka shells? And Bose being like, they're diamonds. The fact that Bose gagged Kathy Hilton is huge.
Put your glasses on.
What?
They always do, right? I mean, I do feel like she is kind of in that group just as much as Garcelle and Kyle.
What's her mom? That was a piece of work. She's a hoot.
she's not changing anytime soon does not give a fuck what anybody thinks of her yeah but also she did show up but also that is sad that they have to go to her mom for a storyline and they can't figure it out between the housewives themselves yeah Sutton's like, sure, yeah, let's put my harsh mom on television to get crucified by the world. But also let's flex on our compound.
Crazy. But yeah, so Beverly Hills is getting boring. So they have to go to Sutton's poor mom.
Don't you have it on your farm?
So it's all a bit. Everything is fake. Everything in this world is fake.
I'm sure someone's going to find where someone else has gotten more.
And they're like, but like what direction is she? And like, what do you think she's wearing right now? Like red? Give us color.
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You look stunning. Are you about to shoot a cover of a magazine? What's happening?
Okay. So you are like an OG, like Vanderpump Rules, people who are actually working there. That's cool.
Didn't he tell you that he TJ thought Joe was gay like before you started dating him or while you were dating him?
Why do you feel like he's not showing up to defend himself?
So you think he's like, I just don't even want to get, yeah, he's like, I don't even want to get attacked by these people because I don't have the correct answer.
That's nice of you. Was the Emmy blow up over the dresses credit thing as insane in person as it was on television? Or what was your perception of that reaction?
Right. Yeah. To Sierra's point, Will being like, and you didn't do that was definitely the nail in the coffin for sure.
Oh, isn't that what they were planning on doing that with the Valley first season? So interesting that I think I think the people in the Valley said no, but that is interesting.
what a sweetie my favorite dj i just think the back to the joe and tj thing it just it's giving icky he definitely is a pot stirrer that's for sure i told y'all i didn't like tj from the jump remember and you're like dude my favorite i enjoy him i enjoy him for tv purposes but don't necessarily he
I feel like, do we always love the pot stirrer? Like, is that, I feel like, isn't Brynn the pot stirrer on Roni and everyone hates her? It's like, because you're making up lies. You're stirring the pot. You're doing stuff to like create drama. It's the same thing TJ's doing. But it's necessary.
she didn't get a segment they made it a point I feel like typically they would go to commercial and then come back and Rebecca would be gone but they had her be like do I sit here do I and he's like Rebecca wants to know if she stays here or goes no they made it a point what is this yeah they made it a point to like leave that in there and like
Okay, bye. I also hate the like, does anyone have any questions or beef they want to address with Rebecca? It's like, just ask someone a pointed question. Just be like, you know, I don't know.
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Michael Jordan.
Okay, wait. So who else was nominated?
I mean, Psy straight up said, you weaponize your experience for the downfall of a friend. And that is an awful thing to do. And I think that's when Brynn was like, watch your words. To tell someone that they weaponized their experience is after someone has been openly talks about.
But it also gets confusing because, you know, when Brynn is saying like, yeah, I called Uba and I was rambling and I was saying all these things that have happened to me. And then for Uba to be like, you never said those words to me.
Like Psy being like, I'm so shocked that Uba went and hugged her. It's like, she was breaking down. Like what? You're shocked that Uba has like empathy and like felt like Brynn needed a hug in that moment. And like, I am not a fan of Psy this reunion. I didn't appreciate anything she really had to say.
Although I will say I am on Cy and Raquel's team with the whole like Uba was disrespecting Puerto Rico and like on a platform where Puerto Rico needs tourism. And like you're going to say that their beaches are dirty in this and there's dead pigeons and there's.
Chris Stapleton has a banjo in his heart.
God, this guacamole is disgusting. We probably wouldn't go there.
I went there for our honeymoon. I love Puerto Rico so much.
Yeah. Yeah. Chris Stapleton was born with a banjo.
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Wow. Hi, Rebecca. Look at this setup. Hi. Live from New York. Live from New York in your own studio.
You're welcome. Mick is also still saying it's a bop.
No.
Yeah. I think it's definitely different when it's on a national television show and like, you know what you're doing a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. So I see where you're coming from on that.
No, that's true. How long were you actually on stage for? Because for us, it was the five questions Andy asked only about Scientology and then you were done. Did he ask you anything else?
No, it just is what makes sense. Like you're what you're doing on the weekend. And then, oh, Monday is the start of your week. You're like, oh, let me get my shit. We're going into work. You're still smoking weed on Sunday. And like you say that, like, oh, it's the weekend. OK, well, if it's the weekend, it can't be the first of the week.
I said this earlier and I'd love to know your opinion on it, but I thought it was very strange how they crucified you for not talking about your religions and all that stuff. But we have Jenna Lyons who doesn't open up about what she had for breakfast. So like, how do you find the balance of like, why do I get hold to this such high expectation, but other people in this cast don't?
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How did it feel to be in a space that these people preach like, you know, women empowerment and support women and this and that, and then to have all of these women bash your brand?
Well, there was the interview, I think, of wasn't it someone saying that you had gifted them the bags and they were like, yeah, I haven't. worn them or not my style.
I mean, I think that's what's so upsetting is they focused so much on other things in your life that it's like you seem like you have been through so much and you have worked your way to such a high level of success that it's like, I would have loved to learn that about you, but they weren't interested in
At 12 o'clock AM, it's over. Weekend's over.
Monday is the beginning of the week. And Monday is my favorite day of the week because it's like, well, actually not really anymore. It used to be for sure. She used to say that when she like... It used to be because that was the day that I... That I disagree with.
Well, that was my favorite surgery day. Okay. You made that sound. So I loved... Industry sounded kind of ominous. Like I was like, what, sitting on a couch? Casting couch. Yeah.
Because it was my favorite. I was doing orthopedics and it was my favorite surgery day. And so I was like, Monday's my favorite day of the week. And Nick was like, I've never heard that before. That's so stupid.
I think so. And then now I'm like, OK, it's not. And you're like, yeah, I used to say that because you used to want to be like different and quirky.
I think you did that very, very well. Listen, I 100% get where she's coming from. To open up about any personal aspect of your life, whether it's your beliefs, whether it's whatever you practice, whether it's children, whether it's past trauma, anything in your life, you don't want to open that up in a room of people who don't give a fuck about you and don't create a safe space.
I 100% get where she's coming from. I wouldn't answer any questions either.
Same.
It's just, why did they do it? And cut out every other thing she ever shot for the show. It's like, you brought her on. Yeah, it's gross.
I would have loved to see her at a photo shoot with her children. I would have loved to see her speak about her business. I would have loved to see her in other rooms with the women. But it's like, yeah, that is theory, though.
Maybe she was boring.
That wasn't like, but then she tried to defend it with like, I'm such a big fan of baby face. And it's like, okay, name your top five baby face song. No, but it's just like, you can't say you're a fan and like get your way out of things just because you're like such a big fan of them.
Then they don't get Chapel.
I feel like it's more so she would have been like, don't scream my name like that in front of babyface. Yeah. Don't scream at me on the carpet. In front of babyface. Chapel.
Yeah. It wasn't bags.
It was skinny, skinny, skinny, skinny flair. Yeah. But isn't it like kind of hard for tall guys to shop? Wasn't he like known as like skinny jean queen? Yeah.
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Period. But he is fucking. He gets into all that in that episode.
You didn't.
No.
He's like, woo, those are tight. Those are tight. I can see your veins through your jeans. We should probably change. Only one of us.
Do you get a refund for the for the rental?
You didn't even use it. OK. Yeah.
You can't just have to pee.
That's why if you do use the bathroom, you have to do it right when you board because it's like if you go mid-flight, there's everywhere.
I'm sorry. Am I crazy that I'm like, why would I get up to take a nude in an airplane bathroom? It's already uncomfortable enough to go in there with the amount of space you have. I'm taking clothes off and taking a photo.
I'm sorry the world hates you. You should respond to my DM because I am loyal.
Exactly.
No, he was a quarterback at BYU. And then after his college career ended, he became a free agent with the Oakland Raiders, who are now the Las Vegas Raiders from 2003 to 2005. That's still pretty impressive.
They kind of change. Sometimes they're 50 minutes. Other times they're going to be an hour and 10, an hour 15. It just kind of depends.
I'm requesting medical records.
Nope.
Those were like industrial goggles.
Charlie and Sierra.
4.95.
Honestly, we thought it was like something like sexually dark.
their storyline is about themselves like they might be involved in other people's storylines but it's like I know why I'm following you a bad reality TV star points fingers and makes their entire storyline about other people because it's like we don't know anything else going on in Jasmine's life but we know that she hates Danny right now
But she's also not a housewife anymore because people got tired of it.
Exactly. It's like, show us what's going on with you and Harry. We don't care for you to tell us these details that we don't know if you're not going to tell us the full story. Right.
And it's also kind of like, and that's, I agree with Mary where I'm like, I want to know about you as the person or your relationship and what else you've got going on. But I am like, it seems like what's the ultimate goal here is like to ruin Danny and Nia's relationship. They just, they have four kids under four.
Like, I'm like, why are we harping on this person to where it's like trying to be like, you're not the person that everybody thinks you are. But I'm like, then just don't fuck with him. Right.
That's what's so crazy. That they're all still friends with Jax. It's like we're sitting here being like Danny who's got four little babies. Then he's trying to have a healthy relationship with his wife. He blacks out. I don't condone that behavior. I think it's icky. However, I'm just like, you guys are friends with Jax.
And yet we're sitting here being like, Danny is the devil and you guys are friends with Jesse.
Jax had to go to a facility because of an incident that occurred right before cameras were picked up. Talk about not being able to keep it in the box. He's throwing chairs, putting holes in walls. And then we're all just like, OK, well, I hope you're doing well in rehab. But Danny, father of four, he got drunk one night and got handsy.
Again, I'm not excusing the behavior, but I'm just like the parallels that like we treat Jax, who has even admitted this episode of how abusive he is to his wife and that he's just got used to treating her like shit.
We are okay with this person coming back into the group or giving excuses and allowances because he checked himself into a facility for a couple weeks, but we don't have grace for a working father of four trying to, like, maintain his marriage, provide for his family, got too drunk.
And you've Brittany over here putting posted notes on her freaking security cameras because you've got Jax texting her being like, I can hear everything that you're saying. Yeah. Like she's unsafe. Like this is giving a knock. Yeah. And yet we're like, fuck Danny. But I'm like, Jax is OK. We'll pick up his phone call and FaceTime and say, hope you're doing well, buddy.
Did y'all ever feel like you were in a horror movie while- Yes.
While his wife, his ex-wife is trying to hide from him.
Exactly.
Slasher was going to come out of the woods.
Yeah.
He's going to do the same shit when he gets up. Yeah.
I do have to say that I did find it adorable that Luke was having a problem opening up the beach chair. But it's like this man is like building. He's like when the car breaks down, he's able to look under the hood. But he gets this little chair and he's like, and Kristen's like, do you want me to Google how to do it? I just thought that was really cute.
He's just he's a man.
You guys. Well, speaking of funky shit, how often do you wash your hands after you go to the bathroom? Every time. That was crazy. I'm so sorry.
Yeah.
It actually made me kind of sad that she was like, and my mom's doing well and my dad's working. And I was like, oh.
And a sister.
It's just like you say every inflammatory thing.
Shut the fuck up.
It says Mattel pulled from the shelves, pulled all the dolls from the shelves and then issued that statement that we read weeks ago, so...
It's a class action, so it invites other people to join.
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Sie hat 43 Millionen Dollar in einem Jahr auf der Website gemacht, aber sie hat keinen Sex. Ist sie nicht im Posten?
Yeah, I mean, he basically said, to dumb it down, he said it was the right timing, it was the right thing to do it. Season 11 set it up for, like, the closing period. And then he said, well, we did it with Roni. Nope.
Und ich bin entschuldigt, aber es ist zu spät.
So she did her goodbye pose for Vanderpump Recast.
Und was hat sie gesagt? Also Lala, Sandoval und Jax waren diejenigen, die niemals eine Ausstellung gemacht haben. In Ariannas Post. In Ariannas Post. Und es waren so 10 Bilder und es war ein Collage. Also es waren wahrscheinlich so 20-30 Bilder in den 10 Bildern. Also sie antwortete zu Kommentaren.
Also ein Kommentar war, living for this carefully curated photo selection, she responded, I wish I could do more slides, I had a lot more things, maybe another post. Another comment said, just here for all the cropped photos and thanking everyone but the cast. Because a lot of the photos had crew members and producers and everybody else. And she responded, that's what the pictures are for, Pookie.
She also, she didn't claim, she was just wearing it at a YSL store.
Ich liebe sie.
One spread on the body, like chest, and then one on the wrist, but then dab the neck.
Good for you.