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The Viall Files

E1013 - LIB’s Madison, DWTS, RHOP, RHOM, RHOSLC, Sexiest Men in Podcasting, Halitosis and Halloween Costumes

09 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 17.044 Nick Viall

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17.024 - 28.944 Nick Viall

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Chapter 2: How can I submit my hot takes about reality TV?

29.025 - 50.045 Nick Viall

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50.146 - 87.115 Nick Viall

Limited time new customer offer for first three months only. Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes on unlimited plan. Taxes and fee extra. See Mint Mobile for details. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick, joined by my beautiful wife, smart, gorgeous, talented. Also has an audition this week.

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87.135 - 87.356 Natalie Joy

Oh my gosh.

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87.376 - 89.639 Nick Viall

Wife is maybe becoming an actress.

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90.38 - 95.407 Natalie Joy

Oh my God. Okay, let's not jinx it, guys. I just got like a self-tape.

95.427 - 101.436 Nick Viall

She didn't even ask. It was like, someone just be like, hey, we want you to audition. And I was like, people understand.

101.467 - 113.458 Natalie Joy

Oh, so she's off her audition only. I'm off her audition only. So the next time you see me, I'll be acting with Margot Robbie and Jason Statham, of course. Of course.

113.979 - 116.024 Leah Silberstein

Your FYC campaign starts now.

116.225 - 117.889 Natalie Joy

I'm in the next Fast and Furious.

Chapter 3: What are the details about Madison's appearance on the show?

307.021 - 308.483 Ciarra Robinson

wasn't it?

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308.503 - 310.686 Justin Phillips

None of the sisters wanted to fulfill that.

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310.706 - 317.216 Ciarra Robinson

To fill the role. The mom thought she was going to. I don't understand why Mary had to marry the husband.

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317.276 - 318.017 Nick Viall

I don't know.

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318.097 - 324.807 Ciarra Robinson

It seems like it gave her a beautiful life though. 100% and she's still happily married to Robert Sr. today.

324.867 - 331.236 Nick Viall

Also, I just want to say I think the Potomac cast is the hottest collective group of housewives.

331.416 - 331.757 Ciarra Robinson

Period.

333.039 - 336.083 Nick Viall

I think they're all hot but Potomac is hot. They have the most I woulds.

337.042 - 338.986 Leah Silberstein

Yeah. That statement.

Chapter 4: How does Joe's behavior affect the dynamics in the show?

576.614 - 578.157 Nick Viall

Record everything.

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578.177 - 582.043 Natalie Joy

So if I were to ever go missing, I feel like you have all the answers that you need.

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583.064 - 585.428 Unknown

If you go missing, I will too because I do the same exact thing.

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585.408 - 605.334 Leah Silberstein

So, OK, here's here's the textbook definition of Internet cookies. Internet cookies are small text files that websites store on your device to remember information about you and your browsing activity, enabling personalized experiences, i.e. the government's tracking you and saved login details, shopping cart items, site preferences and targeted content.

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605.394 - 611.465 Leah Silberstein

So it's basically how like when you're on Instagram and you're like, how do they get these fucking targeted activities? It's because they're tracking you.

611.485 - 615.956 Unknown

Yeah. Yeah. I don't mind that actually. Cause sometimes I'm like, yeah, I do want this.

616.237 - 618.603 Natalie Joy

Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, Oh my God, thank you. I literally was just thinking about this.

618.804 - 621.591 Nick Viall

No one texts to Leah or my wife anymore.

622.027 - 632.016 Leah Silberstein

It's like you don't mind it until Jeff Bezos shows up at your house being like, hey, I saw that you looked up halitosis causes. Are you okay? Yeah.

Chapter 5: What insights did Madison gain about herself as a dater?

2920.712 - 2924.878 Nick Viall

Do you ladies like boxers on men?

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2926.521 - 2928.123 Unknown

Yeah. The shorts. Boxers?

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2928.163 - 2936.655 Nick Viall

Not the boxer briefs. I think I prefer them. Wasn't Joe wearing boxers? Is he a boxer guy? I don't feel like there's a lot of...

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2936.72 - 2937.561 Madison

bunching.

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2937.902 - 2938.683 Nick Viall

They're like shorts.

2939.644 - 2946.254 Madison

I do like boxers. I love boxers. I like a boy butt. I've said it a number of times.

Chapter 6: What are the ladies' preferences regarding boxers on men?

2946.274 - 2948.317 Nick Viall

Boxers don't accentuate the butt a little bit.

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2948.337 - 2959.673 Natalie Joy

The boxer briefs are like the tight Calvin Klein ones. Maybe the shorts ones. I think it's the compression ones. The plaid shorts. He was wearing boxer shorts.

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2959.894 - 2968.875 Nick Viall

Is that what he wore normally? In that scene where he was calling you woman. I think they were like I thought that was crazy though. When he was like woman, like, okay.

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2969.216 - 2971.805 Madison

Yeah. I think he was actually still wearing his swim trunks.

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2971.825 - 2972.527 Natalie Joy

Yeah.

2972.648 - 2976.26 Unknown

Okay. He must have been really hammered then.

2976.66 - 2982.989 Natalie Joy

Are you surprised or not by Edmund's personality?

2983.65 - 3003.151 Madison

I, you know, it's funny because when we were in the pods, like being in the lounge, we would hear Edmund literally like yelling Calabria, like from the other side. So I feel like I kind of had like a taste of the Edmund, you know, like what he was very eccentric. Yeah. I think I was a little bit surprised, you know, just at the pool party.

3003.271 - 3012.61 Madison

Like there was a few moments that I was kind of like, oh, you're having very emotional reactions or, you know, you're very intense. I think that's a good way to describe Edmond is very intense.

Chapter 7: How did Joe's behavior affect his relationship with Madison?

3020.951 - 3049.651 Nick Viall

But did you, back to the ending of episode six, I think a lot of people are divided by Edmund's reaction. Obviously, when we're talking about sex and things like that, it's a heightened topic. And I think people are just more keen on reading reactions and what people are saying. But from your perspective... putting yourself in Calibra's shoes. How did you see how Edmund handled that situation?

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3049.691 - 3058.006 Nick Viall

How did you read his tears? Some people found it manipulative. Other, you know, me, not so much, but I'm curious about your perspective.

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3058.728 - 3080.802 Madison

Well, I first want to say I think KB handled that situation with such grace. I personally would have been very angry if somebody was pressuring me to have sex. As far as Edmund's reaction, you know, I think something that's important to know is, you know, he grew up in foster care. He speaks openly about that. And I think that when you have an upbringing like that,

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3080.782 - 3086.209 Madison

it lends itself to developmental differences.

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Chapter 8: What are the key takeaways from the Real Housewives discussions?

3086.329 - 3109.438 Madison

And I think that he had to kind of learn through foster care, I get attention when I act out. I get love when I act a certain way. Of course, these are just my thoughts. I haven't spoken to Edmund directly. So I think that what you're seeing is he's having an emotional reaction to something and maybe doesn't know exactly where to place that and how to appropriately communicate it. Wow.

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3109.857 - 3134.991 Nick Viall

When you're in the pods, because we saw, I think it was Sparkle Megan, was it Ryan? Is that the guy she didn't pick? Mike. Mike. They asked each other what they're wearing in one scene. And if I'm in the pods, I would ask that every time because I just feel like someone's style, how they dress themselves, how they carry themselves matters to me. Did you ask questions like that?

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3135.071 - 3149.37 Nick Viall

And what was some of the common questions that you asked the people you dated to try to like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm sure you're thinking of a lot of questions. Like, I can't ask this. I don't want to seem superficial. But how do I ask questions that give me insight into who they are?

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3149.97 - 3166.211 Madison

Well, you know, I really, I wanted insight into the character. I wasn't so much focused on like, what are you wearing? What are you thinking? But we absolutely, Joe and I had many, many times like, oh, like, what are you wearing today? You know, and we'd kind of like giggle and laugh about it because he's like explaining his outfit. I'm like, that just sounds like such a man outfit.

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3166.231 - 3186.979 Madison

Like, I can't even... I can't even comprehend what that looks like. So we did talk a lot about what we were wearing. We asked those questions. Questions that I asked personally, I asked a lot of times, do you know your attachment style? That was something that I was very interested in because I am a little bit more of a disorganized attachment. So I do not do well with avoidant attachment.

3186.959 - 3203.938 Madison

So I would definitely kind of ask questions like that. I don't know actually what his is. Honestly, I don't think he had done the testing. So he wasn't sure what his was. Through my experience, I would actually say he might be more disorganized like me where it's kind of a mix of avoidant anxious.

3204.003 - 3219.733 Nick Viall

I know Joe's getting a lot of heat and deservedly so. That being said, just for the sake of grace, what are some of the qualities that maybe people didn't get to see from Joe that you did that explained why you fell for this man?

3220.152 - 3240.55 Madison

Yeah. In the pods, he was so adamant about choosing me. I mean, he was so sure of me. And I think that's a really great quality is that he was so loyal. He was so gung-ho, committed. I mean, literally, I was the one being like, no, I think you should still see out your other connections because I'm still seeing my other connections out.

3241.371 - 3247.116 Madison

I literally went to proposal day with somebody else because I was still trying to see, is this for... I wanted to be sure.

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