Ciarán

Donal, how do you think the balance should be struck in terms of acknowledging that a bit of sunshine on the bones for lots of people is to be celebrated and there's a simple joy in feeling the sand between your toes and eating a 99 and all of that, but accepting the reality of climate catastrophe?

Oh, you know, I'd say I know Maura was baking, so she had to go.

But what do you say to Maura?

I don't think we kind of disagree with anything you're saying in terms of.

what's happening with the climate broadly and the impact it's going to have.

But, you know, who would listen to this conversation and think, oh, Jesus, just let us have a few days sunshine in peace.

Donal, stay with us.

We'll take a short break.

Or you can text me on 51551 and the email address, liveline at rte.ie.

Shifra is on the line and has been listening to the conversation as well.

Shifra, how do you think we should strike the balance between enjoying the good weather, acknowledging the weather is good, acknowledging it cheers people up and brings a smile to their faces, while also acknowledging the grim reality of climate catastrophe?

Why do you think it doesn't get, you think it needs to get more attention?

Why doesn't it?

And do you think that's why then, someone made the point earlier, there's a value.

I think it was actually Sifra who said it, or Saoirse who said it.

Sorry, I'm mixing up my S's.

It was Saoirse who said it.

I'm speaking to Sifra, who said that that's the value in talking about it then on a day like today, because it's tangible.

You know, people feel it's hot or the day after a storm or a flooding, they can see the tangible impact of a weather event rather than on just a kind of a grey February day trying to talk about it when people look outside the window and the weather's exactly as you'd expect.

Yeah.