Ciarán

Is it worse?

What's it like?

You know the way a lot of the streetlights now are being replaced, the orange lights with the kind of LED lights, are they almost?

Is that better or worse?

And these really thick wheels.

Do you find it very frustrating, John Donagh, when, you know, there might be a story about the redevelopment or the renovation of some old building and, I don't know, some battle have been spotted and inevitably the people have given out about it, you know.

Standing in the way, letting some kind of winged creature stand in the way of progress.

And they don't, sorry, if they're going into the attic, they wouldn't damage anything.

You know the way if a bird gets in under it?

Birds will kind of rip at the felt and things like this because they'll try to create, build a nest.

And before you know it, you're sitting watching telly and you can hear a drip above you.

You know, you don't get any of that with a bat, do you?

They can't chew it off.

So obviously people can get in touch with us if they see any of this equipment or it turns up on a resale website and they suspect it might be this equipment.

But if people, have you your own website that people can contact you through, Donna?

Well, you can get, if those people are listening either 0818715815, drop us a text on 51551 or Wildlife Surveys Ireland and Google that you'll find Donna's contact details and you can reach out.

Donna, listen, we hope it all works out for you.

It's been fascinating talking to you.

Thanks a million.

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