Cindy Cohn

Thank you.

We have the best merch at EFF, and I know they made this especially for me.

You know, the thing that's creepy about them is what he said at the end, which is they're taking photos all the time, and they're going to last forever, right?

This kind of creepy mass surveillance in the form of a creepy dog.

Nothing.

Yeah.

I mean, look, we won the first round, which means that we have Signal and we have HTTPS.

And when you lose your phone, you don't lose all the data on it because it's encrypted.

So, I mean, that was great.

But yeah, we continue to have to fight.

And we, you know, in the meta social media case, they use the fact that they offered encryption.

as an argument of a product defect, right?

So the fight continues.

I think law enforcement's interest in making sure nobody can ever have a private conversation just never goes away.

But

our need to have a private conversation online doesn't go away either.

So, you know, I think in the United States we've managed to fend off, you know, there's, there's periodically and their last bill was called earn it, but different bills to try to, you know, restrict encryption.

But, you know,

The UK is a mess.

Australia is a mess.