Cindy Cohn

And I think we're living in a time where that's not a safe assumption anymore.

We have to fight for our privacy.

I mean, I think conceptually there ought to be privileged places in conversations with chatbots.

I'm actually a little more interested in trying to

not have the companies have all that information and trackable back to you.

So I'm more interested in people who are developing ways that you can have anonymity in your use of these things so that they don't have anything that they can reveal about you.

And I think that's a better way to go than expecting them to stand up and protect us.

I mean, you know, it's an old video of the Facebook privacy promises, right?

I mean, and I'm an old lady, right?

I remember when Facebook came out, they were the privacy protective social network because they... And then you can see their terms of service shrink over time to what they're promising you about their privacy and...

You know, if their promises to you are up against their business model, I think you know which one is going to win.

And so they're now all committed to mass surveillance as a business model.

And I think that means that we need to take some policy and legal actions to try to cut that off at the knees.

It was a long time coming because there are, you know, there's plenty of people who are still on the platform who care about their rights.

And it's always a hard decision because we always want to be able to talk to people who...

you know, care about rights.

And there are plenty of people on that platform who do.

I mean, there's a couple of things that happen.

We saw our reach just shrinking and shrinking and shrinking, right?

I mean, there was just recently the picture of who has reach on the platform and it's nobody who's talking about digital rights in the, you know, on your side.