Claire Donald

So her parents were Udine and Frank Didion.

Her dad was a finance officer in the army, and then he eventually started selling insurance.

He took up gambling.

Yeah.

Oh, well, God, don't they all?

This has just been the theme of 2026.

It's like a man, he was drunk and gambling.

It's like it's just fathers in history.

I guess so.

Yeah.

And he eventually started working as a real estate developer.

But when he was in the army, the family was constantly moving and she was an army brat.

And her father was quite depressed when she was growing up.

And she said she didn't even realize that he was depressed because it was just so the M.O.,

until she got older and she was like wow that is depression wow god that is sad really tough and i'm sure with her father being like this and with her family moving so much as a kid joan was really shy she was a deeply anxious girly hear that and she was hyper observant and she later said that moving frequently as a child made her feel permanently displaced and like a perpetual outsider

I truly can't imagine.

Like, I really can't imagine.

I know so many people go through that.

Just like different school districts, different cities.

I lived in the same – my mom lived in the same house for like 31 years.