Claire Nicholls

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2,363 appearances 20 recordings 2 series first heard Jan 2020 last heard 13 Sep

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I'm Clare Nicholls.
So good to be with you.
And I'm very pleased to say that Babak Saeed is here now.
Babak grew up in Australia.
They now call the US home.
And Babak has just published their first novel.
It's called No God But Us.
It's about two queer Afghan men, one from America,
one who's been living in Iran.
And both of these men are going to find themselves living in Istanbul in 2015.
And the timing here is really important because you might remember that this moment, 2015, was this huge turning point in migration and the refugee crisis in Europe.
There were
all these refugees coming from Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan.
And a lot of them were finding themselves kind of stuck and waiting in Istanbul while they were hoping to get to Europe.
So Babak Saeed, welcome to the book show.
I want to start with this line in the book that really jumped out to me.
The line is, For all their wonders, it was the privacy of books that made them safe, a cosy haven no one else could touch.
Wasn't that why so many troubled children ended up inside their pages?
That's something I've never really thought about, Babak, the privacy of reading.
And you were reading these books, I think, in Perth in Western Australia, right?
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