Claire Parker

It's not countercultural.

You're edgy in a group of 295 million.

Yeah, and I think when you surround yourself with people who are thinking similarly to you, you kind of lose touch with the power of your irony, the idea that this is actually a statement, we're part of, this is going to be the future Dadaism, people are going to be studying this, and everyone around you is doing it too, and you forget, you lose touch with reality and what it was about in the first place, and then you have somebody come in and give you money.

And I think the joke is a lot of it is,

you're being held back, but you know what I mean?

Like, why don't they have any money?

Cause there's no good arts programs.

And so.

the structures that you're claiming don't matter and you're being ironic and flippant and apathetic towards have now placed you.

And ironically, the DEI selection of like, who can we use that'll like fuck over the identity politics questions of the left.

And now you're being handed money by the man who's like paying you in order to keep the structures in place.

Like it's all very.

I don't know.

I guess you could say to yourself, this is an artistic statement about how nothing matters, but I have a hard time with, it's never satire when you're like,

Doing it.

Do you know what I mean?

I think we've gotten lost in this idea of like satirizing things, commenting on things when you're just being the fucked up thing.

Oh, my God.

That is really sad to take this money with this long-term plan and then, of course, die on the night that you sell out, having never realized the back half of the plan, which is like, I'm going to get to it.

And I think the joke there is you, by definition, in order to buy and fund this group of people, you have to find people who can't be successful in their own right.