Clare Stephens

It's like just giving you some real-time feedback.

But I saw this story and the first way I actually saw it was that Julia Gillard responded to it and that she put out a statement saying this exact same slogan was lobbed at me 15 years ago.

And I would love to think...

that something has changed and clearly it hasn't and i remember when it was when it was julia gillard and i remember the feeling of being a woman watching it because i think the important thing to acknowledge with this is that as much as pauline hansen very helpfully um just once just into just into alan to to kind of toughen up

is actually about all women seeing it.

It's actually about... And girls.

And boys.

Yeah.

It's about everyone that truck passes in Melbourne and people internalising this idea that there are certain insults that are reserved solely for women and they are designed to entirely demonise your character and to basically suggest the fact that you're wholly evil.

And the fact that the idea that it's not sexist, you just think, well, why doesn't that ever get lobbed at Albanese?

Why does that never get lobbed at?

No, he hasn't.

It just doesn't have the same ring to it.

And I just think the way we criticise male and female politicians matters because why would you occupy a public space where

Why would you strive for that role if you know that you are going to be subject to a different level of criticism and a different, just a different temperature of debate?

Like, I think it's really important.

Jacinta Allen said, basically, we need to call out the line because otherwise the line just keeps moving.

And to explain why it's sexist in the first place when it feels like that should...

go without saying.

But I think a lot of people, because a lot of women in politics have made statements about this in the last few days, and as well as the State Attorney General, Sonia Kilkenny, who said...