Clare Stephens

You couldn't be in Madonna's music video because the laser wouldn't have it.

The laser would trigger something.

It just would.

So I find it interesting that these things kind of shift the dial a tiny little bit, but the working from home element is,

is massive.

But my question is, because I felt anecdotally that there was a bit of a baby boom during COVID, that a few of my friends were a bit like, not doing anything else, like kind of just hanging at home.

But apparently people didn't have babies in 2020.

And then there was a bit of a boom in 2021.

But I'm interested in whether we're going to see that the kind of changes, the workforce changes coming off the back of COVID over the next 5, 10, 15 years, if they're going to make it a little bit easier.

That's what we needed.

I need higher standards.

Oh, wow.

Why do you think that is?

Does not surprise me at all.

Because I think a lot of work is probably busy work.

And I think if people know that they're getting that incentive of a day, a life day at the end of the week, then you can factor that in and you can just work more intensively, work more continuously.

Was the idea for this that it was four 10-hour days or did it just have to be four days?

I bet they would have found less sick days, less mental health days.

Like that's the interesting thing is that once you account for all of that, it's like surely the average employee is...

working roughly four days a week anyway, because they're burnt out and exhausted and sick.