Clare Stephens

So the categories are self...

immediate family, original family, that's so important to distinguish between, friends, money, career, creativity, discipline, and that's important for him, he's like clearly very disciplined, and lifestyle.

So it meant that when certain parts of his life weren't going well, so, you know, as an actor you're auditioning for things you might not be hearing back, he knew he could raise his score in other areas, like he could be really disciplined.

Yeah.

But what I find interesting about this is that it is also this idea of like spreading, that you're not too focused on one thing, that you are remembering that there are different domains to your life and they all carry weight and they are all important.

And I wonder if it's kind of tied to the fact that he's experienced so much tragedy that he can a little bit

zoom out and see that life isn't just the really superficial things.

There's something very significant about the one you forget.

That's so true.

Oh, my God.

Yes.

And, well, and I think the way you score yourself, like I, like as we said, he does like A, B, C, D. Mm-hmm.

I'm more, I would want to do it out of 10.

I just feel like I need that precision.

No, I think the vibe from Martin Short is you just want your score to,

to be at a certain level all the time, like kind of have a baseline level.

So did I. I hated it.

I hated it so much.

I genuinely believe some things...

should not be graded.