Clarence Jones

And so, you know, to say, like, why don't you just stop?

Close your eyes, take that breath.

You know, we don't even do that.

I mean, you know, I mean, so it's easy.

I shouldn't say it's easy, but it's important to let people know how important that is, even in and of itself.

You know, it's interesting, though, as Dr. Barry was talking.

I breathe.

I mean, I do breathing exercises to go to sleep.

You know, and I mean, I don't think about it as meditation.

I just think about, you know, it's like, you know, I take those, I just do those little breathing exercises.

And pretty soon I'm asleep.

And I think that that, again, speaks to the internal –

uh, internal, uh, I don't know, I'm going to say control, but that, that speaks to the internalness of us that, you know, if we, if we learn how to, to, to relax, if we learn how to utilize the, the, uh, the things that, you know, you talked about the meditative things, it really does help, you know?

Um, so anyway, that, that's just, that's me.

I just go to sleep almost every night, like breathe in my thing and let it go, you know?

So, but I never think about it as meditation.

I just think about like, that's just a breathing exercise.

help me see things in a new light and that's uh that's always that's how we grow by seeing things a little a little differently so thank you so much yeah clearance yeah so i'm agree with i'm agree with barry there's uh there was so many nuggets there but also listening to your voice david i just kind of like yeah okay i didn't want to go to sleep i don't want to go to sleep

But as you were explaining some things, I'm like, yeah, okay.

And I can feel myself in my head kind of relaxing.