Clarence Jones

I think that was a wonderful leading illustrious guest.

Uh, this is going to be a kind of a, uh, organic conversation.

Uh, we've had Sam on our show before talking about a variety of different things.

And, uh, Sam has, uh, you know, I've known Sam for a while.

And, uh, what is interesting about Sam, Sam has been, uh, someone that I have, uh, truly, uh,

truly enjoyed as it relates to public health, especially around the issue of trauma.

But Sam, this is June, and this show might air in July.

I don't know.

But for the month of June, we talk about men's health.

And Sam has been doing a...

a conference for a long period of time, for over 17 years.

In fact, I was at his first conference.

So we've been doing that for a long time.

But I wanted Sam to come on so that he could talk more about that conference.

He can talk about his book.

But I think this is going to be a rather organic conversation about Black men and about parenting.

And so there's some commonalities in birthing and all those kind of things.

But anyway, I'm saying all of that to just say, hold on to your seat because we're getting ready to take a ride.

So I just want to say welcome, Sam, to Health Chatter.

Okay, okay.