Clarence Jones

So like I said, folks, hang on to your seatbelt because Sam's going to take us for a ride.

So let's start off, Sam.

Tell us a little bit about yourself, and then we'll get a little bit in talking about some of the work that you've done.

But tell me about who you are.

Yeah.

So, Sam, one of the things that has always intrigued me was how you entered into this work, but also why do you think the work is so important?

Well, I'm charming the bit because I told you this, we had to buckle up our seatbelts, right?

Because, you know, I know Sam and have known Sam for a long time.

Sam, you've known Sam for a long time, too.

Yeah.

You know what we're going to do.

But I really wanted to talk to Sam about his conference.

You know, because I mean, I know and I'm sure you'll find some way to tie trauma into parenting because some of us have been traumatized by parenting.

But Sam is doing a conference coming up fairly shortly.

And I wanted to make sure that we talk a little bit about that.

And so, Sam, tell us a little bit overview of your conference, but also talk about specifically this one that's coming up.

And his book.

He's got a book, too.

Yeah, he's got a book.

community we were demanded not to talk about our stuff yeah yeah yeah okay well this is you know i'll tell you um we could go on a lot in the in this arena um clarence clarence last last let me let me say this we never really got to talk about the conference really you know i but i but i knew i knew that that uh uh the conversation would be organic and uh i'm hoping that um