Clas Svahn

So we cannot really be sure exactly how they interpreted things during hypnosis.

Right.

Well, Pesalka also says that the aliens in Outer Limits have eyes that wrap around their heads and that's what they see as well.

So it's almost as if their perception is somewhat shaded by, yeah, maybe their preconceived notions and knowledge.

Yeah.

So interesting.

Yeah.

You know, also another weird fact about that case is C.D.

Jackson, Charles Douglas Jackson, who ran Psychological Warfare and was very involved in MKUltra and then went on to, I believe, give the Supruder film, which is the, you know, film of...

jfk getting shot with the missing frames he gives that to time magazine because he's very involved in sort of a perception management for the public at the time he's head of the psychological strategy board um with gordon gray and a few other guys at the time he goes and visits betty and barney hill a few weeks after their abduction okay so interesting it's like so it was already like

You're talking about the elite of the elite of American warfare operations.

You know, a guy who's very high up in government going to visit these two abductees.

So strange in 1961.

Yeah.

Wow.

I don't know.

It's not easy, you know.

It's not easy, but I think we have to find that artifact.

Yeah, yeah.

Have you been digging for any other artifacts?