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Clate Mask

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
407 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Right.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

So, you know, anything over, uh, over a three is considered okay, but when you can get up pushing five, that's awesome.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

So, um, but you know, that's that number, the LTV CAC ratio is the number that,

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

that every SaaS leader knows they've got to manage well.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

And that's the trick.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

It's better to do revenue than unit churn.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Well, not quite, but we're, you know, we're moving toward that direction.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

So, but the point is, yeah, you want to do, you want to do revenue or otherwise your LTV calculation doesn't look right.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

And that's what many people don't want to do.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

So anybody that wants to compete with a fusion stuff, Hey, no upfront fee.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

And I know what your turn looks like.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Oh man.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Favorite business book.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Hard to pick a favorite.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Crossing the Chasm is pretty good.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Crossing the Chasm is pretty good.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

But I've read so many that I love.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

But probably the better thing to say is what's your favorite book right now?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

Okay.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
637: Reason Infusionsoft Didn't IPO, Passes $100M ARR, $125M Raised, Helping 45,000 SMB's With Marketing and Sales Automation with CEO Clate Mask

And I'd say The Advantage.