Clate Mask

There's got to be a liquidity event.

That's either an IPO or some other kind of transaction.

There's really a few ways you can do it.

You can go public.

You can raise more capital and in that create an opportunity like I just mentioned.

Um, another way you can do it is if the company sells, that's not our ambition, that's not our intent.

It's obviously the reason I'm having this conversation with you, but those are the, those are the generally the three ways that you're going to be able to create a liquidity opportunity for employees.

As a CEO, I think about that.

You know, I think about how do we help create an opportunity for our shareholders, including our employees, because we have hundreds of employees who own shares and options at least.

And I want them to have that opportunity.

The people who are looking at that saying, wait, something has to happen.

Yeah, when you're burning cash, something has to happen.

When you're not burning cash, you get to control your own destinies.

So now there's a point, obviously, where investors are like, OK, well, when are we going to get our money?

So there's there's obviously a point.

But I'm very grateful that I don't have investors that are pushing on me saying, come on, you got to you got to deliver right now.

Now, do they want to return?

Of course.

But what they also want is their their.

their equity to grow in value.