Claudia Dressel

The question is, what is so difficult about it and how can we remove the barriers?

And perhaps if not making it necessarily easier, perhaps even make it more predictable.

What I hope for is that when people live together, that they can really make their life work together.

Yeah.

I mean, this is your experience, and there is no arguing with that experience.

I think, Brian, you give voice to what a lot of people are feeling.

And I know that a lot of people are also exasperated because they feel as if there is a competition to be kind of a good caregiver without having these kinds of feelings.

I'm just curious with Brian, would it help if you found other people who also are angry?

So you're feeling alone with this.

Right?

So I think, to tell you quite the truth, I think that to some extent, at least, the expression is gendered, meaning more men are willing to talk about this being just really, really brutal and also infuriating.

I think there is less acceptance

less welcoming for women who express similar kinds of things yeah i think that's definitely true but claudia you say they're out there other people feel this way or am i am i one of the guys i am saying that they're out there lots of them i mean i can quote some people who just say you know what do you got

We're totally fucked.

Either we are going to be the person who is giving the care or the person who is receiving the care.

And that's what our life is going to look like.

And nothing else can make that better.

Those kinds of things, lots of them.

Lots of people who are very angry because it also doesn't seem to be fair.

And so fairness also comes up as one of those things, as you expected your life to be just different.