Claudia Vega

It's not applied.

And are there incentives that you've seen work?

In Peru, not really.

To be honest, not really in Peru.

Yeah, it's kind of difficult.

And about the illegal miners of the big company, right now the illegal mining is just so out of control that even the legal miners of the big company are starting to be affected.

So they're also like trying to push the government to do something.

That's how the situation is in Peru right now.

It's kind of difficult.

I mean, first of all, we need mining.

That's a fact.

Not just gold mining, like every metal mining.

All of us use the different metals.

So there are ways to do it in a more responsible way because for me, green mine or green gold doesn't exist.

It's like responsible mining.

We need to know like mining is a resort that will stop.

I know it's difficult, but we have to have conscious of like, maybe you're mining now, but I don't know if your kid will be able to mine or the kid will be able to have the resources.

So we have to find other ways to take advantage of the forest.

Like, for example, study more plants and see if we can use the plant for something else.

So the way I see it is like there should be mining, but do it in a responsible way.