Claudia Vega

And you have to respect some place.

I know miners that they have this land and there are places that even though they know there's gold there,

They won't mine there because they know they need the forest too.

So if they do it in that way, I think it could be done.

We have to figure out that there are places that you cannot do mining, even though there's a lot of gold.

Because there are other valuable things in the forest.

And we have to give value to other things.

Because for me, the gold is not the more valuable thing of the forest.

I mean, like that has to count for something.

Wow.

No big deal.

Yeah.

Well, actually, I'm really scared of fake news because that's what slowed the change.

Because people take information that is not real and they take decisions.

Based on that.

Because everybody can be a victim of that.

Yeah.

When we were thinking in strategy, I always said, like, we should learn how to disseminate information the way that fake news do that.

Because if we learn that, maybe we can compete.

And what gives me hope, like...