Claudina Bade

Right. And obviously, don't touch a dead bird.

Right. And obviously, don't touch a dead bird.

Interesting. Okay. Oof, I feel seen. I do not keep my cat indoors. I'm sorry. Okay. I want to talk about the government response, which you mentioned up top. In a different circumstance, I would trust that there were infrastructures somewhere that you could turn on, as I said. But we now have...

Interesting. Okay. Oof, I feel seen. I do not keep my cat indoors. I'm sorry. Okay. I want to talk about the government response, which you mentioned up top. In a different circumstance, I would trust that there were infrastructures somewhere that you could turn on, as I said. But we now have...

Interesting. Okay. Oof, I feel seen. I do not keep my cat indoors. I'm sorry. Okay. I want to talk about the government response, which you mentioned up top. In a different circumstance, I would trust that there were infrastructures somewhere that you could turn on, as I said. But we now have...

Robert Kennedy Jr., who's overseeing health and human services and is a person who's skeptical of the usual epidemiological tools that we use to control viruses like masking and especially vaccines. From your reporting, what have you found the Trump administration doing or saying that pricks up your ears when it comes to bird flu? Like, what are you tracking about what they're doing?

Robert Kennedy Jr., who's overseeing health and human services and is a person who's skeptical of the usual epidemiological tools that we use to control viruses like masking and especially vaccines. From your reporting, what have you found the Trump administration doing or saying that pricks up your ears when it comes to bird flu? Like, what are you tracking about what they're doing?

Robert Kennedy Jr., who's overseeing health and human services and is a person who's skeptical of the usual epidemiological tools that we use to control viruses like masking and especially vaccines. From your reporting, what have you found the Trump administration doing or saying that pricks up your ears when it comes to bird flu? Like, what are you tracking about what they're doing?

So are you saying these conversations aren't happening or that there isn't necessarily a strategy in place? Because I saw in one of your stories that the government has disputed that its response was too slow or inadequate.

So are you saying these conversations aren't happening or that there isn't necessarily a strategy in place? Because I saw in one of your stories that the government has disputed that its response was too slow or inadequate.

So are you saying these conversations aren't happening or that there isn't necessarily a strategy in place? Because I saw in one of your stories that the government has disputed that its response was too slow or inadequate.

Yeah. A person seeing this train coming down the tracks, like what I think about is the sort of general anti-scientific establishment sentiment, this mistrust of the scientific establishment, which is not just in certain members of the administration, but spread among the public during COVID, as you mentioned. You know, what happens if the train crashes and we still are living in that moment?

Yeah. A person seeing this train coming down the tracks, like what I think about is the sort of general anti-scientific establishment sentiment, this mistrust of the scientific establishment, which is not just in certain members of the administration, but spread among the public during COVID, as you mentioned. You know, what happens if the train crashes and we still are living in that moment?

Yeah. A person seeing this train coming down the tracks, like what I think about is the sort of general anti-scientific establishment sentiment, this mistrust of the scientific establishment, which is not just in certain members of the administration, but spread among the public during COVID, as you mentioned. You know, what happens if the train crashes and we still are living in that moment?

Like, what does natural mean? Like, when you hear that, what goes through your head?

Like, what does natural mean? Like, when you hear that, what goes through your head?

Like, what does natural mean? Like, when you hear that, what goes through your head?

Yeah. This is such an important point you're making because I used to think of people who had tremendous tolerance for natural as being of certain religious sex, you know, who don't believe in medical intervention. And so you'd have a real reason and framework and worldview that would have you be extremely committed to natural, even if your child died, say, which is the ultimate test.

Yeah. This is such an important point you're making because I used to think of people who had tremendous tolerance for natural as being of certain religious sex, you know, who don't believe in medical intervention. And so you'd have a real reason and framework and worldview that would have you be extremely committed to natural, even if your child died, say, which is the ultimate test.

Yeah. This is such an important point you're making because I used to think of people who had tremendous tolerance for natural as being of certain religious sex, you know, who don't believe in medical intervention. And so you'd have a real reason and framework and worldview that would have you be extremely committed to natural, even if your child died, say, which is the ultimate test.