Clay Travis

And it was just go time from day one.

I was going to say in the sort of media landscape and the multi-platform approach that we have, you know, I had a very unusual, and actually Clay had a kind of unusual start in me.

I'll let him, you know, if you have any questions about law in the U.S.

Virgin Islands, Clay's expertise runs deep.

I mean, you wouldn't have expected that he would become a guy running a company doing, you know,

a talk show on 600 stations or whatever, if you'd sat with them 15 years ago, I was coming out of the CIA.

So the secret world, I didn't even have social media really.

And everyone else did just because of the risks of it.

And through total happenstance, Glenn Beck heard about me

uh just heard about me by reputation and that i was interested in and transitioning out of government for you know not necessarily even forever but for a while and glenn gave me a shot but the thing about it was at that time and again this is 2011 so yeah going back 15 years uh at that time the attitude was you have to be able to if you're going to do this you have to be able to do everything

And that was impressed upon me in the beginning.

Now, Clay started his own site.

So if you're an entrepreneur, obviously, you're doing your own taxes.

You're taking out your own trash.

There's that all of the above approach.

But from a media content perspective, when I started at The Blaze, I didn't start as a radio host.

I didn't start as a TV guy.

They brought me in.

They're like, your job is to write articles and get readers and get clicks every day.

And that was actually great training.