Cliff Sims

different, it's unlike anything I've ever experienced.

And I can see how it wouldn't be for everyone.

But personally, I found the characterization of Trump as someone who's just like, you know, he's just the you're fired guy.

And it's just like flying off the handle and yelling at people and going, you know, wild all the time to not be my personal experience.

He never yelled at me in a way that wasn't any different than like, you know,

that I found that unusual.

You know, you certainly wouldn't find it unusual.

Anybody that's been in the military certainly wouldn't find anything that you did, you know, unusual.

Me as a college basketball player, my basketball coach probably yelled at me 10 times worse than Trump ever yelled at me for anything.

So I found that kind of mischaracterization, I found that to not be...

what he's like.

The thing I think that people struggle with, and I could see where somebody, especially from a military background, might struggle with is how freewheeling it is.

It's not regimented.

It's not very orderly.

There's some kind of controlled chaos that goes on that I have come to the conclusion is a part of his creative process.

He didn't like to have a lot of structured time during the day.

because he wants to have time to, he talks all day to a million different people.

He is constantly on the phone getting feedback from a million different inputs, some of them kind of frontline type people, some of them the names you've heard of type people who are in leadership, and everyone in between.

If you walked in there today,

he would ask you, Sean, what are we thinking?