Cliff Sims
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We can make that happen.
But he looks up on the screen and you can immediately see that every single panel is protests in the Middle East.
There are people hanging him in effigy.
There are people burning the American flag.
There are people chanting, Trump, Trump, you will see.
Palestine will be free.
He is watching this unfold, and it's the most visceral hatred toward a person that you can imagine.
I'm watching a giant Trump head get lit on fire over there.
I'm watching them stabbing Trump figure, things like that.
The feeling that I had in that moment, I can only compare it to the same feeling that you might have if you see someone trip and fall on the sidewalk,
My inclination is to look away because I don't want them to be embarrassed that I saw them fall.
You know, when people fall and then they look around and say, did anybody see that?
I would rather like act like I didn't see it so that they don't feel embarrassed.
Not that the president had done anything wrong, but I had this kind of embarrassed feeling of like, man, look what they're saying about the person standing right next to me.
It's just such visceral hatred.
And I will never forget Trump's reaction to seeing that though.
He watches it for a minute.
And then he looks at me and he goes, all right, what do we got next?
Like what's next on our schedule today?
Didn't even acknowledge this hatred, unimaginable level of hatred happening for the whole world to see directed at him personally.