Cliff Sims

And it rolled off his back like water off of a duck's back.

And I realized in that moment that Trump,

for all the things people can say about him, has a level of intestinal fortitude to do, if he thinks something is the right thing to do, and you may disagree with him thinking that that is the right thing to do, you may have a difference of opinion there, but if he thinks it's the right thing to do, he will endure any amount of criticism, hatred directed at him, if he thinks it's the right thing.

And that's why I and a lot of others who worked in the White House would have crawled over broken glass for Trump.

Because that's a level of moral courage that we were around politicians all day and these squishes who are just like, see which way the wind blows.

Oh, people want me to go that way.

I'm going to go that way.

And Trump wasn't like that.

And it was really a rare thing to see among politicians for sure.

I mean, things of that magnitude, maybe not.

Oh, yeah, when she held his head, severed head up, things like that, yeah.

It doesn't affect him.

I think it would surprise people because people, again, I think they have a little bit of a misconception of Trump because he's also someone who lets no slight go unanswered.

You know, he'll attack someone on Twitter for some reason,

seemingly down in the weeds, like why are you raising that to the level of a response?

So on one hand, he's like, we'll punch anybody who's confronting him, and on the other hand, is willing to endure the kind of criticism that I'm talking about.

So it's a dichotomy a little bit there, but there's some parts of it I think are a sport for him.

The reason he would go after the host of Morning Joe or whomever on Twitter, it's the game.

You can come after me, I'm gonna come after you.

Let's play the game, let's go, let's do it.