Cliff Sims

So the same meetings or same room where we'd have cabinet meetings, we would bring in private sector leaders and things like that.

And the president would use it as like a giant conference room, just like he used to see on The Apprentice when the president's sitting at a, or Trump would sit at a table and people would kind of surround the table around him.

He'd kind of go around the room.

He would do the same thing with private sector leaders.

And so we get to Elon and Elon says, I think I can get people from New York City to Washington DC in 29 minutes.

and we can do it via a tunnel, hyperloop system.

And he's kind of explaining this whole, the whole thing.

And Trump kind of leans back in his chair and he goes, Elon, you know, this guy's talking about bridges, this guy's talking about tunnels.

I mean, you're talking about bridges, he's talking about roads.

And this guy comes, he says, I've got a tunnel.

I'm gonna bring a tunnel.

You know, he starts doing this whole thing like a Trump riff on like, I can't believe you're bringing a tunnel in here.

And Trump goes, you know what, Elon, that sounds great.

Why don't you just do it?

Let's just do it.

And it was just kind of a funny, awkward moment where everybody's like looking around the room, like, did the president just approve a tunnel from New York City to Washington, D.C.?

But the thing that I always, that stuck with me about that with Elon Musk was,

is the things that you are able to do in life are often directly proportionate to the amount of criticism and ridicule that you're willing to take for doing them.

And here's Elon Musk, surrounded by some of the biggest business leaders in the world,

and he comes with this really out of left field idea.