Cliff Sims

Who are the people that get to go?

I say get to go.

I mean, it's a terrible scenario if you're having to go.

If you do end up going, it's the people that you would expect.

A lot of the senior national security folks would be there with support staff.

There's also staff that is there 24-7.

Congress, Senate?

Some leadership, for sure.

There are evacuation plans for them to be a part of those, definitely, because you not only need to reconstitute the executive branch, you need to maintain the legislative branch as well and the judicial branch as well.

So there are evacuation plans for every branch of government that are fully fleshed out.

But this is one of those things when we first got to the White House that even Trump was interested in.

And there's a way that...

I'm not gonna say exactly how, because I'm actually not sure how sensitive this is.

So I'll just kind of stay away from it.

There's a way that you can tell who is gonna evacuate in different scenarios.

And Trump realized, he noticed this thing and asked what it was and found out that it was evacuation protocol under these kind of scenarios.

Who's going here, who's going there, who's not.

And so at that point, I was a communications aide in the White House.

I wasn't at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

I wasn't one who would be evacuated.