Cliff Sims

Pretty soon the president sees me on TV, sees things being written about the book, sees the things I'm saying and realizes that I'm not attacking him.

I'm not, even at the time when we're in the middle of a lawsuit, you know, I'm still very good friends with Don Jr.

at the time has become one of my best friends.

Jared and Ivanka were my friends.

Everybody kind of understood what was going on.

The president had been given a false impression of the book by some of the people inside of the White House that I criticized.

They were my former colleagues, and they used that opportunity to try to get back at me by spinning him up to come after me.

So he realizes that I'm not.

We kind of make peace there after a brief legal dispute.

And he asked me to come back.

Was that a phone call?

I don't want to get into the, yes, we did talk.

I won't talk about the details of it.

But we had a very good and very funny conversation and put all that to rest pretty quickly.

And he asked me to come back to do a couple of things.

One, to run speech writing for the Republican National Convention in 2020.

And I did that.

And then to come back as Deputy DNI.

So it's a full circle kind of I've been in, I've been out, and I've been back.

I've done it all at this point.