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You've got a bit of a reputation as the fun guy of politics. I think who could forget the bungee jumping and the paddle boarding stunts of the election campaign, which I have just as a small tangent, like I feel for you because I've got a reputation as being the like fun party friend. And sometimes, you know what, Ed, I don't want to be that. I just want to be taken seriously.

You've got a bit of a reputation as the fun guy of politics. I think who could forget the bungee jumping and the paddle boarding stunts of the election campaign, which I have just as a small tangent, like I feel for you because I've got a reputation as being the like fun party friend. And sometimes, you know what, Ed, I don't want to be that. I just want to be taken seriously.

Do you feel the pressure?

Do you feel the pressure?

The authenticity thing is something that we've been talking about on this podcast a lot. And actually, you're now one of the few voices in Parliament that's willing to actually call Donald Trump out to actually authentically say, no, mate, this is not really on. So on Monday, we heard that the US voted alongside Russia, Belarus and North Korea against the resolution in support of Ukraine.

The authenticity thing is something that we've been talking about on this podcast a lot. And actually, you're now one of the few voices in Parliament that's willing to actually call Donald Trump out to actually authentically say, no, mate, this is not really on. So on Monday, we heard that the US voted alongside Russia, Belarus and North Korea against the resolution in support of Ukraine.

You called it a wake up call to those cheerleading Trump in our country. So actually, my very first question, who are the cheerleaders? Go on, name and shame.

You called it a wake up call to those cheerleading Trump in our country. So actually, my very first question, who are the cheerleaders? Go on, name and shame.

What are you thinking about Labour, though? Because they are they're walking something of a tightrope. They have to show diplomatic support for the new administration, but they also want to stand up for Ukraine. But they're also quite clearly afraid of pissing off Trump. Would you count that as effectively cheerleading it on?

What are you thinking about Labour, though? Because they are they're walking something of a tightrope. They have to show diplomatic support for the new administration, but they also want to stand up for Ukraine. But they're also quite clearly afraid of pissing off Trump. Would you count that as effectively cheerleading it on?

But I mean, I think you hit the nail on the head that he's someone who is personality driven. He likes to work with people he likes. And so there is always a risk if you stand up to him and tell him some hard truths. Perhaps he'll respect it, but perhaps he wouldn't. I mean, this might be a problem that you face yourself.

But I mean, I think you hit the nail on the head that he's someone who is personality driven. He likes to work with people he likes. And so there is always a risk if you stand up to him and tell him some hard truths. Perhaps he'll respect it, but perhaps he wouldn't. I mean, this might be a problem that you face yourself.

So I noticed that Elon Musk recently called you, and we quote, a sniveling cretin. Congratulations on that, by the way. I think if Elon despises you, you're doing something right. Yeah. If you found yourself having to work with his administration, what would you do? Surely there'd be consequences to the outspokenness.

So I noticed that Elon Musk recently called you, and we quote, a sniveling cretin. Congratulations on that, by the way. I think if Elon despises you, you're doing something right. Yeah. If you found yourself having to work with his administration, what would you do? Surely there'd be consequences to the outspokenness.

And he does seem to like Macron as well. So that doesn't seem to have backfired.