Coco Kahn
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1,632 appearances
19 recordings
2 series
first heard Sep 2024
last heard 12 Jun
Coco Kahn’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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They look great as well, the photos. They look like real prints. They've meticulously calibrated these high-resolution displays. And unless you look really, really closely, you'd never know it's a screen.
Don't forget to mention that we sent you to show your support for the show. Terms and conditions apply. Okay, so before the break, we heard my conversation with Sir Ed Davey, which was really interesting, if a little brief. I definitely could have spoken to him for longer. What did you make of it?
No, absolutely. And I think I still come back to this point about like, there's no denying that what is taking place is atrocious. And any civilian across the world who dies in a conflict of its leaders, it's just a shame. It's awful. And so obviously, I know something has to be done. It's not that you can't do anything. But I still come back to this thing being like, is military the only way?
Are there other ways?
But like you say, I think he makes a very, very powerful argument. And yeah, I do still come back to this point about like, what does it mean to be anti-war in the modern age? Is this a concept that we should, as progressives, still fight for, to latch on for? What does it involve? I don't know if I have the answer for that, but it was definitely a fascinating conversation.
So look, the Liberal Democrats are setting themselves up to be a credible opposition, but the Tories, the official opposition, on the other hand... Just listen to this clip of Kemi Badenoch from Parliament on Tuesday.
full of charisma and championing the fully-costed welfare plan of the previous government, which in short order gave Starmer a fantastic moment of riposte, pointing out that their welfare plan had been laughed out of town by both the independent economics research organisation, the IFS, and the Institute for Government. So I think it's probably worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure that's the
only clip we've played in pods over the uk of kemi badenock since she became tory leader it's been a hundred days now and she is failing to cut through not even enough for us to make fun of her and we love doing that so zoe what's going on here it almost makes you miss liz trust because like at least she had like there was loads of golden material like there was lots to make fun of
I mean, and you're exactly right. It is just culture warring. That's all she's doing. So, you know, we tried to look into examples of where she's got the headlines recently. You know, this week she called for an end to the BBC licence fee due to a Gaza documentary that ended up being pulled. She's got a headline or two for saying, oh, you know, we should steamroll international law.
I think, you know, recently she chatted about sandwiches. She's been on Jordan Peterson's podcast. I know.
Oh, that is sad. I didn't know you were into self-harm.
It's all just like, you know, internet arguments and not even up-to-date ones. Do you know what I mean? We've moved on, Kemi. We're not talking about the National Trust anymore. We're talking about Luigi Mangione's loafers. Like, come on, get with it. And, you know, the anglerfish. You know about the anglerfish.
Wow. OK. And she's not even mentioned that. What are you doing? You're not online enough. But on a serious note, James Cleverley, he must be rubbing his hand together, right?
Because we've spoken before about how it seems like Badenoch has just sort of seen Nigel Farage and said, I'm going to emulate that. Implicit in that is this idea that Farage is brilliant. But the latest YouGov poll shows that there's a bit of a decline in reforms numbers from 27 to 25 percent. You know, this like Trump-Farage balance.
or what unrequited love thing that's going on, you know, it could be starting to hurt him. I mean, what do you think about Nigel Farage's potency right now?
We should also mention the election result in Germany as well. So the Conservative CDU, led by Friedrich Metz, won the most seats and is likely to form the government taking 30% of the vote. But... The big winner in terms of voter gains was the far right, the AFD party led by Alice Weidel, which won the support of one in five German voters and nearly doubled its vote share.
This is the biggest result for a far right party since the Second World War. Are there lessons to be learned for us over in the UK, Zoe?
Yes, yes. So this seems like a good opportunity to think about Labour, actually, because, yes, of course, we've been talking a lot about Ukraine and Trump, but there has been a few positive stories for the government. So last week they met their commitment for bringing on 2 million more NHS appointments. We also heard about £270 million of culture funding too. But this news is not cutting through.
These kind of economic solutions that... you know, arguably could be a counter to far-right power. It's not making it. What's happening here?
Well, look, I think maybe Labour needs some help with their PR. They you know, one organisation they could be taking tips from, are the Climate Change Committee, who this week created, you know, I would say a relatable way of measuring our climate change impact, and it is kebabs. Kebabs. They've created a kebab measurement system. Yeah, so the Climate Change Committee has taken the humble kebab
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