Coco Kahn
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and given it to us as an understandable metric for our meat consumption and has suggested that Brits need to drop their meat quota from eight to the equivalent of six. So we eat the equivalent, apparently, of eight doner kebabs and we need to go down to six.
You keep it in the bag. Yeah. You know, some keep hot sauce, not you, Yorkshire tea. Yeah. Anyway, though, I do actually genuinely think it's a really great way of drawing attention to this issue. British people love kebabs. Yeah. All of it was to draw attention to what the UK needs to do to meet its net zero commitments by 2050.
So by 2038 to 2042, the majority of homes will need to have ditched their gas boiler for a heat pump, switch to an electric car and, of course, eat a few less kebabs.
It sounds like the 2025 version of Parkland, doesn't it? Driving around in my electric car. Zoe Grinerard, thank you so much for joining us today. Come back soon. I will. Thank you so much. Have a productive week. Thank you. And I will be sure to send you an update of all five things I've achieved. Yes, or it will be considered a resignation. So that's it, everyone.
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And I'm Coco Kahn. Today, Trump's foreign policy shift has left Europe reeling. But is Starmer's vision of sending peacekeeping troops to Ukraine the answer?
No, I know. I'm hearing a lot of the word frontline on the radio today, which doesn't make me feel great. And also, immediately after you hear these words, frontline, you hear this tidbit from a former military chief. It basically says we don't have enough money. We don't have enough resources in the army to actually run a front line.
That does not make me feel secure on a national level, Nish.
Oh, but elsewhere, a petition to ban children under the age of 16 from social media is doing the rounds. Tortoise tech reporter Patricia Clark is here to tell us whether this will really save the children.
Now, this week has seen a monumental meeting between Russia and the United States to discuss the future of Ukraine. It was held in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, blindsiding leaders in Ukraine and Europe who were cut out of the negotiations.
So Starmer's suggestion of a US backstop to deter Russia wasn't quite explained there. But we might find out next week when Starmer meets with Trump in Washington.
He loves the idea that superpowers can just do whatever they want. And the superpowers are America, China, Russia, Saudi, I guess, because they've got loads of money. Europe is not a superpower in his mind. And so that really tells you his bully boy mentality, that there's a natural order to might is right and bigger gets whatever they want, right?
And so where does that leave Britain? Well, we've sort of ruined many alliances after Brexit. OK, so maybe we align ourselves more with Europe. I'm not convinced that we can be this conduit. I think we might have to choose a side a bit here. Maybe this is a time for us and Europe to kind of reconcile and work together to face this kind of large, looming economic threat.
What an absolute joker. This posturing of European values, censorious, and that they are the true flag bearers of free speech is completely ludicrous. I don't know if you saw Newsnight last night, but there was an ex-Trump advisor arguing with Victoria Derbyshire on there.
And she actually said, well, you know, something to the effect of Britain can't talk because you've got more people in jail for expressing your opinion than Russia. You what? What are you talking about? That's just completely made up nonsense. It sounds like at the minute, Starmer's coming out pretty strong, maybe even stronger than some European leaders. Do you think at the minute, this is good?
This is like a good moment for Starmer to be doing this? Is he showing leadership? Is this going to work well for him?
I mean, that is a lot. And there will be sections of the general public that are like, I'm sorry, why are we cutting our services for a war that's really far away in a completely different... You know, where are your priorities, Starmer? And I think... Part of me thinks he's really showing his leadership a bit here and maybe this is going to be good for him.
Another part of me thinks this is terrible for him. Morality is clearly no longer a factor in any of this. And you kind of see you see the narrative changing, even like, you know, some of the comments that Trump's made being protecting Europe's no longer our our main priority, as though all these things were done out of the goodness of America's heart.
And actually, you know, when you look at the money that has gone in to support Ukraine, Europe has given more than America collectively, not one individual nation. Sure. So, you know, again, so cutting them out of the talks is this really horrific thing to do, an unfair thing to do. But you can just get this sense of like the wheels turning, the narrative turning.
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