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Are there other ways?

But like you say, I think he makes a very, very powerful argument. And yeah, I do still come back to this point about like, what does it mean to be anti-war in the modern age? Is this a concept that we should, as progressives, still fight for, to latch on for? What does it involve? I don't know if I have the answer for that, but it was definitely a fascinating conversation.

But like you say, I think he makes a very, very powerful argument. And yeah, I do still come back to this point about like, what does it mean to be anti-war in the modern age? Is this a concept that we should, as progressives, still fight for, to latch on for? What does it involve? I don't know if I have the answer for that, but it was definitely a fascinating conversation.

So look, the Liberal Democrats are setting themselves up to be a credible opposition, but the Tories, the official opposition, on the other hand... Just listen to this clip of Kemi Badenoch from Parliament on Tuesday.

So look, the Liberal Democrats are setting themselves up to be a credible opposition, but the Tories, the official opposition, on the other hand... Just listen to this clip of Kemi Badenoch from Parliament on Tuesday.

full of charisma and championing the fully-costed welfare plan of the previous government, which in short order gave Starmer a fantastic moment of riposte, pointing out that their welfare plan had been laughed out of town by both the independent economics research organisation, the IFS, and the Institute for Government. So I think it's probably worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure that's the

full of charisma and championing the fully-costed welfare plan of the previous government, which in short order gave Starmer a fantastic moment of riposte, pointing out that their welfare plan had been laughed out of town by both the independent economics research organisation, the IFS, and the Institute for Government. So I think it's probably worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure that's the

only clip we've played in pods over the uk of kemi badenock since she became tory leader it's been a hundred days now and she is failing to cut through not even enough for us to make fun of her and we love doing that so zoe what's going on here it almost makes you miss liz trust because like at least she had like there was loads of golden material like there was lots to make fun of

only clip we've played in pods over the uk of kemi badenock since she became tory leader it's been a hundred days now and she is failing to cut through not even enough for us to make fun of her and we love doing that so zoe what's going on here it almost makes you miss liz trust because like at least she had like there was loads of golden material like there was lots to make fun of

I mean, and you're exactly right. It is just culture warring. That's all she's doing. So, you know, we tried to look into examples of where she's got the headlines recently. You know, this week she called for an end to the BBC licence fee due to a Gaza documentary that ended up being pulled. She's got a headline or two for saying, oh, you know, we should steamroll international law.

I mean, and you're exactly right. It is just culture warring. That's all she's doing. So, you know, we tried to look into examples of where she's got the headlines recently. You know, this week she called for an end to the BBC licence fee due to a Gaza documentary that ended up being pulled. She's got a headline or two for saying, oh, you know, we should steamroll international law.

I think, you know, recently she chatted about sandwiches. She's been on Jordan Peterson's podcast. I know.

I think, you know, recently she chatted about sandwiches. She's been on Jordan Peterson's podcast. I know.

Oh, that is sad. I didn't know you were into self-harm.

Oh, that is sad. I didn't know you were into self-harm.

It's all just like, you know, internet arguments and not even up-to-date ones. Do you know what I mean? We've moved on, Kemi. We're not talking about the National Trust anymore. We're talking about Luigi Mangione's loafers. Like, come on, get with it. And, you know, the anglerfish. You know about the anglerfish.

It's all just like, you know, internet arguments and not even up-to-date ones. Do you know what I mean? We've moved on, Kemi. We're not talking about the National Trust anymore. We're talking about Luigi Mangione's loafers. Like, come on, get with it. And, you know, the anglerfish. You know about the anglerfish.

Wow. OK. And she's not even mentioned that. What are you doing? You're not online enough. But on a serious note, James Cleverley, he must be rubbing his hand together, right?

Wow. OK. And she's not even mentioned that. What are you doing? You're not online enough. But on a serious note, James Cleverley, he must be rubbing his hand together, right?

Because we've spoken before about how it seems like Badenoch has just sort of seen Nigel Farage and said, I'm going to emulate that. Implicit in that is this idea that Farage is brilliant. But the latest YouGov poll shows that there's a bit of a decline in reforms numbers from 27 to 25 percent. You know, this like Trump-Farage balance.