Coco Kahn

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1,632 appearances 19 recordings 2 series first heard Sep 2024 last heard 12 Jun

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Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Coco Kahn.
Absolutely insane, incoherent and obviously terrifying. You know, in my naivety, I woke up really early this morning before the news was circulating and thought to myself, oh great, on today's episode we can talk about the Grammys or something nice like that. Do you know what I mean? I was like, oh, there seems to be a natural pause in the devastating, horrifying news.
Let's start on this Gaza news. Here's President Trump announcing his plans. We'll understand if you skip the next 30 seconds if you can't stand the sound of him.
Of course, these institutions are deeply, deeply problematic, but do we want to do away with them entirely, i.e. they don't exist, we don't have anything like that, or do we want to improve them so that they are more fair? That point about naivety, I feel that as well.
I was thinking about Donald Trump, as I do every minute of the day, but I was thinking about how he's so naked in his ambition and the way that he speaks, and he kind of reveals the problems with the machine, right? Yeah. Actually, all along, it's just been about money and power and who has the biggest guns. All along, it's been might is right, investors interested, all along.
But this time, he's not keeping it quiet. He's proud of it and he's showing it. And there's something about this as well in this situation where I just was thinking to myself, well, I suppose if it has felt like in a way that we're all in this... through the looking glass when we talk about Gaza and that Israel's response has been, I don't know, proportional or something ludicrous like that.
People are still saying this thing. And if you follow that to the nth degree, if you take that logic where we're just going to completely forget all of the history, all of the occupation, we're just going to only think about the last however months long it's been. Well, obviously, this is going to be the logical conclusion, isn't it?
This is the logical conclusion of like dehumanising Palestinians, them not having a voice, of the only thing that matters is Israeli security and about ultimately securing a kind of Western presence in the Middle East.
Yeah, even just listening to Trump earlier then when he talked about, like, we will own it. So I'm like, OK, so we're going to go from an Israeli occupation to an American occupation? Like, he went from crony capitalist to crony imperialist in, what, two weeks? Something like that? I'm still processing it and I still feel... like angry and shocked and confused.
And there's a part of me, a negative part of me that's like, well, what did you expect, Coco? What did you expect was going to happen? Did you really think that this relationship between Trump and Netanyahu, which has been signposted for a long time, was going to come out?
You know that phrase, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. I mean, these people have been showing us who they are for such a long time. And there's a part of me that thinks, well, what did you think was going to happen? Like really, Coco, what did you think when they announced the ceasefire deal? And even the fact that like, you know, the UN... Aid agency weren't allowed in there.
In a way, there's part of me that thinks, well, this was inevitable. This was going to happen. I hope for God's sake that the governments around the world have had this conversation about when this happens and have a plan. You know what I mean? It's a horrible, horrible day. Yeah.
Like the Gaza situation, this is definitely a sign of things to come in terms of US foreign policy. Trump will probably keep throwing his toys out of the pram and world leaders will at least partly acquiesce.
Listen to the latest episode now on the Pod Save America feed or watch on YouTube. But back on our home turf, we have some news that will give us a little bit of hope in this. It's been hard to find reasons to be hopeful recently. But we have a victory for the climate.
The Rosebank oil development, given the green light by Rishi Sunak's government, was ruled to have been unlawful due to a lack of clarity on just how much CO2 would be emitted by the project. A couple of months ago, we spoke to Tessa Khan, one of the lawyers leading the fight against the proposed development, and she sent us in an update.
And, you know, we were talking about Heathrow just last week and how frustrating it must feel to feel like so many decisions, particularly in terms of the environment and the ecological damage, are already made and there's nothing you can do about it. But you can, as they've proven. And these are victories that, of course, we should be celebrating.
By the way, guys, if you're listening and you know of any other victories, let us know. I think we all need... some hope and optimism. So if there's something giving you hope at the moment, if there's some grassroots activism, if there's a case that isn't actually being spoken about enough, but it's really meaningful to causes of the environment or social justice, just let us know.
We'd love to hear about it. So email us at psuk at reducedlistening.co.uk and we'll aim to share some of the light around.
Now, after the break, we'll be chatting with the news agent, Lewis Goodall, about some damning Labour leaks from Keir Starmer's inner circle and the fallout from Trump.
Maybe you're that person that loves taking photos. I know that I am. I have thousands. I don't know where the ones that are most meaningful to me really are. But if I had an aura frame, I could probably start to put them in places they belong. Up on the mantelpiece, in a bedroom, in a kitchen where they can be seen by all.
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