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Coco Kahn

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Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

That does not make me feel secure on a national level, Nish.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

Oh, but elsewhere, a petition to ban children under the age of 16 from social media is doing the rounds. Tortoise tech reporter Patricia Clark is here to tell us whether this will really save the children.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

Oh, but elsewhere, a petition to ban children under the age of 16 from social media is doing the rounds. Tortoise tech reporter Patricia Clark is here to tell us whether this will really save the children.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

Now, this week has seen a monumental meeting between Russia and the United States to discuss the future of Ukraine. It was held in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, blindsiding leaders in Ukraine and Europe who were cut out of the negotiations.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

Now, this week has seen a monumental meeting between Russia and the United States to discuss the future of Ukraine. It was held in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, blindsiding leaders in Ukraine and Europe who were cut out of the negotiations.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

So Starmer's suggestion of a US backstop to deter Russia wasn't quite explained there. But we might find out next week when Starmer meets with Trump in Washington.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

So Starmer's suggestion of a US backstop to deter Russia wasn't quite explained there. But we might find out next week when Starmer meets with Trump in Washington.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

He loves the idea that superpowers can just do whatever they want. And the superpowers are America, China, Russia, Saudi, I guess, because they've got loads of money. Europe is not a superpower in his mind. And so that really tells you his bully boy mentality, that there's a natural order to might is right and bigger gets whatever they want, right?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

He loves the idea that superpowers can just do whatever they want. And the superpowers are America, China, Russia, Saudi, I guess, because they've got loads of money. Europe is not a superpower in his mind. And so that really tells you his bully boy mentality, that there's a natural order to might is right and bigger gets whatever they want, right?

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Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

And so where does that leave Britain? Well, we've sort of ruined many alliances after Brexit. OK, so maybe we align ourselves more with Europe. I'm not convinced that we can be this conduit. I think we might have to choose a side a bit here. Maybe this is a time for us and Europe to kind of reconcile and work together to face this kind of large, looming economic threat.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

And so where does that leave Britain? Well, we've sort of ruined many alliances after Brexit. OK, so maybe we align ourselves more with Europe. I'm not convinced that we can be this conduit. I think we might have to choose a side a bit here. Maybe this is a time for us and Europe to kind of reconcile and work together to face this kind of large, looming economic threat.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

What an absolute joker. This posturing of European values, censorious, and that they are the true flag bearers of free speech is completely ludicrous. I don't know if you saw Newsnight last night, but there was an ex-Trump advisor arguing with Victoria Derbyshire on there.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

What an absolute joker. This posturing of European values, censorious, and that they are the true flag bearers of free speech is completely ludicrous. I don't know if you saw Newsnight last night, but there was an ex-Trump advisor arguing with Victoria Derbyshire on there.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

And she actually said, well, you know, something to the effect of Britain can't talk because you've got more people in jail for expressing your opinion than Russia. You what? What are you talking about? That's just completely made up nonsense. It sounds like at the minute, Starmer's coming out pretty strong, maybe even stronger than some European leaders. Do you think at the minute, this is good?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

And she actually said, well, you know, something to the effect of Britain can't talk because you've got more people in jail for expressing your opinion than Russia. You what? What are you talking about? That's just completely made up nonsense. It sounds like at the minute, Starmer's coming out pretty strong, maybe even stronger than some European leaders. Do you think at the minute, this is good?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

This is like a good moment for Starmer to be doing this? Is he showing leadership? Is this going to work well for him?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

This is like a good moment for Starmer to be doing this? Is he showing leadership? Is this going to work well for him?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

I mean, that is a lot. And there will be sections of the general public that are like, I'm sorry, why are we cutting our services for a war that's really far away in a completely different... You know, where are your priorities, Starmer? And I think... Part of me thinks he's really showing his leadership a bit here and maybe this is going to be good for him.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

I mean, that is a lot. And there will be sections of the general public that are like, I'm sorry, why are we cutting our services for a war that's really far away in a completely different... You know, where are your priorities, Starmer? And I think... Part of me thinks he's really showing his leadership a bit here and maybe this is going to be good for him.

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Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

Another part of me thinks this is terrible for him. Morality is clearly no longer a factor in any of this. And you kind of see you see the narrative changing, even like, you know, some of the comments that Trump's made being protecting Europe's no longer our our main priority, as though all these things were done out of the goodness of America's heart.