Coco Kahn

Pod Save the UK is a reduced listening production for Crooked Media.

Pod Save the UK is a reduced listening production for Crooked Media.

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Our theme music is by Vasilis Fotopoulos.

The executive producers are Anishka Sharma, Madeleine Herringer, with additional support from Ari Schwartz. Dan Jackson is also our head of production.

The executive producers are Anishka Sharma, Madeleine Herringer, with additional support from Ari Schwartz. Dan Jackson is also our head of production.

And I'm Coco Kahn. With just two weeks to go until the autumn budget, Labour is preparing to make some huge reforms. But how ruthless is Keir Starmer willing to be in reshaping the UK? We're speaking to ITV's political editor, Anushka Astana, to find out.

And I'm Coco Kahn. With just two weeks to go until the autumn budget, Labour is preparing to make some huge reforms. But how ruthless is Keir Starmer willing to be in reshaping the UK? We're speaking to ITV's political editor, Anushka Astana, to find out.

One week on from the great big reset inside Number 10, suddenly it seems like there's a flurry of activity from the government. It's a nice change from the month of stasis, but with a lifeless opposition and a stonking majority, are we about to see some radical reforms?

One week on from the great big reset inside Number 10, suddenly it seems like there's a flurry of activity from the government. It's a nice change from the month of stasis, but with a lifeless opposition and a stonking majority, are we about to see some radical reforms?

Ruthless is quite a... I would describe it as a negative word. But do you think... in the political space that actually people might admire it. Maybe even the electorate might admire it. I mean, I remember back, obviously, Jeremy Corbyn was a very different leader, but I remember there was a constant criticism of him that he would be too soft. And that was what people said in the press.

Ruthless is quite a... I would describe it as a negative word. But do you think... in the political space that actually people might admire it. Maybe even the electorate might admire it. I mean, I remember back, obviously, Jeremy Corbyn was a very different leader, but I remember there was a constant criticism of him that he would be too soft. And that was what people said in the press.

He was too soft, too, you know, wet.

He was too soft, too, you know, wet.

But he said, basically, sometimes... Sorry, that was just a tangent about our ongoing arguments about swearing on this show.

But he said, basically, sometimes... Sorry, that was just a tangent about our ongoing arguments about swearing on this show.

With the electorate, do you think that's different though? Do they value ruthlessness? Do they perceive it as a show of strength or actually they want their leaders to be compassionate?

With the electorate, do you think that's different though? Do they value ruthlessness? Do they perceive it as a show of strength or actually they want their leaders to be compassionate?

Right. OK.

Right. OK.