How f***ed are we if Trump wins? + Is Jeremy Corbyn MP forming a new party?
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Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Coco Kahn.
And I'm Nish Kumar. And today we're speaking to the independent MP for Islington North, Jeremy Corbyn, to understand what's next for the left.
And later, with US elections looming, we're joined by co-host of our sister podcast, Pod Save the World's Tommy Vitor, to discuss what it means for US and UK relations.
So the NHS is the government's topic of the week, and it's nice to see us focusing on reform and policy as opposed to just talking about how everything's getting worse. Prime Minister Keir Starmer has declared a once-in-a-generation opportunity for the NHS to be reformed, and that's great. But the way that they've gone about it has struck us as being a little strange.
Yeah, so on Monday, the Health Secretary, Wes Streeting, announced an open public consultation on the future of the NHS. And in the grand tradition, it makes you so patriotic, things got very weird.
Yes, I mean, in something that any of us could have seen happening, the proposals that were coming in thick and fast were different flavours of nonsense. One of them included putting beer on tap in hospitals. Free cinema tickets from the NHS. Waffles for every meal. Just some of the highlights from day one of the consultation. Development of an alchemical panacea is an incredible piece of policy. I'm not sure anybody would get behind the proposal for mandatory euthanasia to fill up hospital beds, but the suggestion to legalise recreational cannabis might make Cocoa happy.
This is ridiculous. You do this every opportunity you can. Just make some little dig about some false accusation about me and potential recreational drug use. It's just utterly absurd. I would never take recreational cannabis, not least because it makes me sick. obviously there's a that's right in fairness i've never seen you taking cannabis and that's the end of that sentence that's the end of that sentence that's the end of it isn't making stuff up fun so obviously obviously there's plenty of uh you know actual productive suggestions to you know some of the uh the comments that have come in include clean the hospitals now and then uh better health care which is you know certainly one we could agree with as well as maybe actually providing some health care to trans people an actual good suggestion um
This is obviously the NHS's Boaty McBoatface moment. Now, again, I suspect most of you will be familiar with this. If there are any international listeners or viewers that don't remember this, there was a public vote on naming a new boat and the winner was Boaty McBoatface because the British public cannot be trusted to not play the fool. So look, I think there's definitely an argument to be made that it is a good thing that reforms of the NHS start by a consultation with the public who use it. There will be people listening to this and watching this that will have very specific experiences of the NHS that they think would be useful for the government to hear in terms of improving the situation and outcomes for patients.
The only thing that strikes me as strange about this is I don't really understand why we're not talking about the rollout of the Labour Party's plan for the NHS that it's been building up. in its period in opposition. I'm slightly concerned as to why... there was no specific plan for day one of a Labour government and what it would do to start to deal with some of the problems in the National Health Service.
Well, exactly. It is important that patients have an opportunity to speak about their experience and more information is good. But I would be surprised if there wasn't already a wealth of patient data out there and there was already stuff that they could be working on to, you know, stop this acute problem that's going to happen in winter because that's what people want.
So the... First solution I would have thought is an immediate cash injection into the National Health Service. And the idea that we're starting from a position of, okay, we need to make a list of everything that's wrong.
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