Nish Kumar

Hi, this is Pod Save the UK.

I'm Nish Kumar.

Hundreds of millions of people now talk to AI like chat GPT every single day.

But most people have no idea how it works or what the dangers are.

Tech commentator Jamie Bartlett is here to enlighten us.

The tech companies behind services like ChatGPT, Claude and the rest say the potential for progress is worth the dangers.

But is that really the case?

Leading technology and AI writer Jamie Bartlett and former guest of this show believes it is.

His new book, How to Talk to AI, delves into the machine to understand how AI works.

Everything is fake and nobody cares sounds like something I would have written when I was a very angsty 15-year-old on my exercise book.

Listen, I'll say it.

I was having one of the worst jobs in the Western world right now.

Oh, I see.

Just because I have friends that work in the sector and the amount of people declaring themselves experts in this that know absolutely fucking nothing about it must be really frustrating for you.

I've become Will Smith's character in iRobot.

Like I'm just like, I'm 20 minutes away from going to live in the woods, right?

I'm like, I'm absolutely hostile to all of this.

And I sort of accept that I've like gone maybe too far the other way.

But the,

The premise of the book, even though you're worried about it, is that you're trying to work out what a safe and sensible way is for us to live alongside it, right?