Codie Sanchez

And I had to sit down with them and say, one of my favorite rules from Dave Ramsey's company, when I went and

and went to his headquarters, and I have a lot of respect for Dave in many ways, is they have a no gossip policy.

It's really aggressive at their company.

And if you do it and another team member hears you do it, they'll just say, hey, we don't do that here.

But if it happens another time, you're let go from the company.

And I said, I really think this is by and large a good philosophy because it can be really toxic.

And one of the leaders said, gossip is just natural.

And I said, it is.

You're right.

But if we are the ones that stop it every time, it will become a lot less natural.

And so, like, I think you have to be okay saying, hey, we just don't do that here.

We don't have the energy for it.

That's not part of our corporate culture.

If you want to gossip about things, don't do it here.

But that's really not going to be who we are.

But even giving that feedback in real time, I think, is really hard.

And yet it's how you preface.

Let's talk about that because, you know, you're at one of the greatest companies of all time, certainly of our lifetime.

What is your take on that?

Like, what is the culture of Amazon that led to such massive performance?