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Cody McLean

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
266 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

putting myself in their position and seeing what would I want and trying to allow that from this perspective of looking at my agents, not necessarily as numbers on a spreadsheet, but as fellow human beings, which is hard to do when you're in an industry, which they're effectively your product.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And one of the side benefits is, well,

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

I spent a lot of time looking at the small details.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

So things like, instead of just calling them agents, we called them ninjas.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And whenever they would end up being hired, we had this cool wooden samurai sword, and then they would actually be knighted.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And that created this kind of peak experience that was completely different from every other experience that they've ever had.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And that also made them part of the tribe.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

They felt like they're in.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

You're either a ninja or you're not.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And one of the things I saw is one of the most successful, hard to get into outsourcing companies in the Philippines is JPMorgan Chase.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And if you say if you work for JPMorgan Chase, everybody's like, oh, wow.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And so I want to create that experience where if you ask that question, you could say you're a ninja.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

That was that's my goal to have it be where you can just say you're a ninja and you instantly know where you're at.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

So with this tribal culture, it also had this effect of decreasing the attrition rate, which as you would imagine, an outsourcing company would be a very important factor.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And it allowed the clients to have stronger bonds with their agents.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

Back in 2019, we were able to get as a benefit of this, number 86 on the Inc.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

5000 list and one of the fastest growing companies in Texas.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

Thank you.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

And then we're gonna look at this interesting concept about tacit knowledge that I've been mentioning, but I haven't really described what it is.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
How I bootstrapped to $20m in 5 years (and 3 growth channels I used to hit first 100 customers)

So I found this really neat YouTube video where this guy actually has, he gives his kids instructions on how to make a PB and J sandwich.