Colin O'Byrne

Thanks, David.

Yeah, it's a conversation that could be had, but I think, look, we are where we are now after however long the private waste management companies.

And I think you could have that conversation, but look, Conor's outlined some of the costs involved there.

I think from our point of view, the conversation we should be having there is that if four trucks serving customers on the same street is an unavoidable sort of cost of the current model that we're using, we should look at electrification of the fleet.

Now, that doesn't have to be all trucks electrified from right now.

But it's what we're seeing in Europe, especially places like Amsterdam, Copenhagen.

They've massive amounts of electric bin trucks going around.

And these reduce noise, they reduce emissions.

And that makes it makes a big difference to your quality of life.

I think that's part of the model.

If we are pursuing the current model, then we have those trucks.

Well, look, it depends on what you're looking for.

Look, if you are the customer, I suppose you're looking for your options.

You're looking for any amount of different companies to deal with.

If we go with a model whereby, say, it's just one operator per postcode, in theory, that sounds great.

You just have the smaller amount or less amount of trucks going up and down.

But then are the consumers going to be happy with less choice?

I mean, that's...

Yeah, I think...

From the voice point of view, we would always say, look, it's waste reduction is what we're after.