Collin Stewart

And so I was like, all right, the stubbornness approach isn't working.

I need to do something different.

And when I took the time to like, because I'd gotten into this like, you know,

Before 996 was a thing, I was working like all the time.

Like it was more than 996 because I would get, I'd get to the office at like eight in the morning.

I'd get home at 11 or 12 o'clock at night.

And like, I would do that five days a week.

And then I'd work on the weekends from home or sometimes I'd go into the office.

It was really busy.

So it was like working all the time.

And I think one of the things, like there's an upside to having that kind of capacity to just like grind.

But I think the downside is you get so...

you get so worn down, you don't have your good brain to like really pull back and focus on like, am I grinding towards the right thing?

And I think I maybe got caught in that loop a little bit.

So when Roger had that conversation with me, I pulled my head out of my ass.

I was like, okay, well, what is it that I'm doing wrong?

Like, what is the fundamental thing?

And reflecting, talking to customers, talking to the team, it was that I was showing them what I'd built and said, Hey, look at this cool thing.

Isn't this a great, cool thing that I built?

And they're like, yeah.