Colm Tóibín

even when I, he didn't want to hear about it, actually.

He said, it's yours, you take it.

You know, it's not something, I thought it was going to be the beginning of talk therapy, that from that we were going to begin.

But he said, no, no, no, it's just something you need to know.

And he never really knew what happened.

And what happened was that

In the hypnosis, you see, we were brothers and he was four and I was eight when we spent that time together.

But I mean, in other words, the two of us were always put together.

And so I went into his spirit as he was dying.

And I mean, it's a very hard thing to talk about in a way.

So writing about it, you have full control over just trying to describe it in detail so that at least it's, I felt it was important I wrote it down.

And published it.

But also must have that in them.

Yeah.

Even if they didn't do the, if they didn't do, you know, the hypnosis, that potentially...

They're going around where that had actually happened to them without them knowing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I do.