Conan O'Brien

That may sound like, oh, that can't be true, but I feel there's something to the idea that

not feeling particularly cool when you're a kid or not being sure what your identity is.

It's like the sand in the oyster that gives you the pearl.

It may be something that you can access.

Is that possible for you?

Matt, she doesn't know what hard drugs are.

I'm telling you there's, and I think a lot of people listening can relate to this.

There's a lot of people that would look at you and the stunning, astounding success you've had and the career you've had and say, oh, she's just cool and she knows it and that's who she is.

And they don't understand the chemistry behind it.

There needs to be moments, big moments where you're insecure, where you think I don't have any ideas.

Sometimes imposter syndrome.

Everybody, all the people I admire have that in moments.

And they can access it.

I'm someone who can go up in front of a lot of people and take charge and be perfectly in control.

But I can also in a second after I'm done with my performance access the me that's 16 years old, bad skin, doesn't know how to talk to girls, way too skinny, feels like a loser.

That person is always lurking around and I can access that person whether I want to or not in a second.

That's just part of the formula.

Yeah, exactly.

No, that's why.

You know, nothing would enrage me more than if a really good looking guy that I knew in high school who was an incredible athlete went on to become the seminal artist.