Connor Howe

And it's not like a politically partisan thing.

I think New York, you're able to get it.

Alabama, you're able to get it.

But in California, you can't get it.

And a bunch of conservative states, you can't.

It's not really... Adoption is such a politically...

uh bipartisan issue really where everyone in politics is like adoption is great we just should keep the status quo basically so adopted people have been advocating for their records to be unsealed for like at least 50 years and it's still kind of one of those things that they're really struggling to to get people on their side with i mean it's a huge deal but yeah

Going back to the open versus closed adoption thing, that's kind of my point is that that's the issue, right?

It's the records being sealed, not this openness agreement.

And the openness agreement, again, it's self-serving.

It's open when we want it to be open.

But then when we say the adoption closes, it's really a way of the agency saying that

That it's a failure of the adoption rather than a built-in feature of the system.

Because ultimately, open adoption just means you have access to the piece of paper.

And they wanted to say it's closed because then it's a promise being broken, really.

But it's like...

It's hard to explain what I'm trying to say.

That's not even true.

It has nothing to do with that.

You can have a closed adoption and know your parents.