Conor McKeon

Yeah.

He's very edgy, isn't he?

He's very, very edgy.

I'm on edge.

What's going to happen now when you get the Virgin gig if Joe's mopey dick one of the days or something like that?

No, we were in that strange kind of half space at that time where we didn't really know where we were any good again.

It was before, like, 1999, that was before Duff and Robbie Keane and Richard Dunne, even John O'Shea.

So I think that was kind of the dregs of, the dregs of the kind of last...

Last team around.

I don't know, it comes back to what we expect from the teams that represent us.

Do they owe us anything necessarily?

But I think the thing that really pisses people off, and maybe this is the reason that the analysis has been a little bit soft or the public reaction has been more charitable, is that for a long time we were really clueless.

It looked like players, not that they didn't care, but you know when the team on the pitch doesn't believe that what they're doing is going to get them anywhere, they sort of, in some ways, give up.

Whereas with this team, like they gave it everything that they had and they weren't good enough and they made mistakes.

And afterwards, I think, and this goes back to the connection with the team and the public, is that Troy Parent's interviews were really, really good.

All the interviews were really good.

Hamer's interviews have been really, really good.

There's no spikiness there.

They're not putting up a shambolic performance and then coming over all kind of passive aggressive afterwards.

And I think that resonates with people as well.