Constantin Kisin

You're making this up when they just said for ten years, that's what we need and that's what they wanted.

And they put it into the College of Policing and then they put it into the police.

And now that it's happening in the real world, they're going, no, no, there's no two tier policing as if that wasn't what they claimed they wanted all along.

hold those people in absolute contempt and they don't care about them is my personal take on it well yeah and the thing with it is is like if that was applied to any other group it'd be bad and it's bad when it's applied to white working-class boys can we just not say it's bad to discriminate against certain groups based on ethnicity

uh and religion and so on and we don't want it to be happening to anybody so please don't tell us that advantaging this group reverses something in the past because all you're then going to do is flip the scales the other way and now everyone's angry again instead of just having what peter talked about which is policing and everything else without fear or favor which by the way is one of the great inventions of britain and the rest of the western world which is

not really even remotely imitated elsewhere i mean if you if you live in many other parts of the world there's a clear racial hierarchy everybody knows who is who and where they are in that position and i don't really think that that's what we want in britain i thought that was one of its best qualities that that was not the way we did things

you know as we're running uh uh towards the end of the show it just strikes me that i had a bit of a like out of body experience while we were talking here and i just looked down almost on what we're talking about and i look at the facts right we're talking about a number of riots in a in a small number of years it's basically a riot every summer now effectively right over some horrible atrocity that happens

We're talking about people feeling unsafe.

We're talking about a completely unsustainable economic model where we spend so much on welfare and so much on looking after people who are not even British that we can't afford to pay off the interest on the debt.

Forget about the debt.

Right.

You put all that together.

I mean,

I hate saying this, but if you were reporting on a country in the Middle East, on sub-Saharan Africa, and saying they've got constant riots, people are feeling unsafe, the economy's in this kind of condition that we're talking about, you go, that's a third world country and it's got third world problems.

Is that what we're talking about?

Well said, Peter.

Patrick, just on that, let me say one quick thing and then you take over, mate.

Delighted to hear your thought.

I just wanted to say that, Peter, I'm so glad you said that because I remember coverage of BLM, for example, BLM in America, burns down whole

districts of cities takes over armed with guards they take over a portion of the city and everyone and everyone pretends like this is fine and they say oh a riot is the language of the unheard and all this stuff and i'm so glad that when we're talking about this issue we are focusing on how to actually solve this problem because let's be honest for a lot of people violence in this kind of situation it feels good it's an outlet for a lot of other frustrations with life etc