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And during the season, he was winning a lot of football games. Correct, but that doesn't make someone a winner. Winning regular season games.

And during the season, he was winning a lot of football games. Correct, but that doesn't make someone a winner. Winning regular season games.

And during the season, he was winning a lot of football games. Correct, but that doesn't make someone a winner. Winning regular season games.

I still think Dan Campbell's a very good coach. But that's something that we talked about, and he's got to win in the playoffs before we deem him a winner.

I still think Dan Campbell's a very good coach. But that's something that we talked about, and he's got to win in the playoffs before we deem him a winner.

I still think Dan Campbell's a very good coach. But that's something that we talked about, and he's got to win in the playoffs before we deem him a winner.

That's a fair point.

That's a fair point.

That's a fair point.

Yeah, that's... Yeah. People are, you know...

Yeah, that's... Yeah. People are, you know...

Yeah, that's... Yeah. People are, you know...

I had to say it.

I had to say it.

I had to say it.

I do think Dan Campbell's a very good coach, but I don't know. He didn't have his guys ready to play today.

I do think Dan Campbell's a very good coach, but I don't know. He didn't have his guys ready to play today.

I do think Dan Campbell's a very good coach, but I don't know. He didn't have his guys ready to play today.

I got crucified on this show when I said that you can't call him a winner until he wins in the playoffs. He has won in the playoffs. He has. He went to the NFC Championship game. But every... That doesn't make you a winner. Winning a playoff game does not make you a winner.

I got crucified on this show when I said that you can't call him a winner until he wins in the playoffs. He has won in the playoffs. He has. He went to the NFC Championship game. But every... That doesn't make you a winner. Winning a playoff game does not make you a winner.