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Corey Knowles

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

It's like, OK, like that's actually pretty doable if you just have five tools, basically.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Whereas if you ask ChatGPT, you know, hey, you can try now, if you ask ChatGPT to give Cori X to Asana, ChatGPT would be like, well, you should go into Asana, you should click this button over here, and then you should click this button, because it can't do anything.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So I think that's where the magic really happens, is when you can actually allow LLMs to gather its own information and actually do things in the world.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

It's scary, but it's so powerful.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

That's a good question.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So this is the magic of the Retool platform.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And I think this is a actually pretty subtle, but accelerating change in the world, which is how it works in the Retool platform is engineers can specify what kinds of building blocks non-engineers are allowed to use.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so you might say, hey, when you're generating, let's say dashboards to view customers, we should always use this customer component that the engineer built.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So that way there's a canonical one, it never goes off track.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

You might say, hey, from a security perspective, these tables should never be accessible by these people, by these optic groups, for example.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so once an engineer sets these things up, then non-engineers or tomorrow's engineers can go wild.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

They can do whatever they want because you're within the security guardrails basically.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And the subtle change that's happening here is

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Developers, we believe, instead of being the ones who are hands-on coding an application, they become almost like a platform engineer, where they sort of build the building blocks that then non-engineers assemble together with AI.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Because I think to your point, if actually engineers are totally out of the picture, it might get kind of crazy because you would have non-engineers writing back to production databases.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

kind of scary.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

It's pretty scary, actually.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

But when you can actually have engineers building some of these building blocks, then you have sort of a very nice path, if you will, of... And I really believe that this is... I really think the era of engineers writing code in IDE, compiling it and running it