Corey Knowles

I think that's so 2025 at this point.

And at 2026, 2027, it's going to be pretty cool that engineers are not the ones doing that anymore because there are better things to do.

They want to enable other people to build, if you will.

Yeah, let me think about that for a second.

Take your time.

Take your time.

From a tech debt perspective, we haven't really seen that with our customers.

Okay.

But this maybe gets into... I'll just explain very quickly because I think it may be interesting.

So one of the big theses behind the Retool platform is that most of the code that people are writing where you actually find bugs...

is not code that you should have written anyways.

That makes sense.

That does.

That does.

Think of a really internal tool.

90% of the code that you're writing is actually not unique to your problem or your tool.

And it's actually a lot of boilerplate.

But actually, that 90% of the code is where actually most of the bugs are found, actually.

And so the idea is, if you can actually eliminate all that code and have the Retool platform handle it for you, then you actually get less bugs.

Maybe an analogy for this is like using Stripe, which is instead of using Stripe, you could say, hey, I'm not going to use Stripe.