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Corey Knowles

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I'm going to build my own Stripe, actually.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Theoretically, you could do that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

But you're probably going to have a lot more bugs than Stripe is going to have, actually.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so by outsourcing all that stuff that you don't want to handle and saying, Stripe, handle it for me, Stripe focuses on the problem and actually ensures there's less tech debt in that code, actually, just like with Retool.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And our hypothesis is that, and this has been true, I think, over the last seven, eight years for Retool, is a lot of the code that a engineer would write for internal tools were the tech debt really built.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

is code that Retool should focus on and we will write it for you and we are fully focused on how do we deliver, laser focused on the best platform for building internal tools on top of.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so you can eliminate all that debt.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Maybe the last analogy, because I really passionately believe in this, is kind of like BI tooling, where

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

If you were, if you asked me today to go build a dashboard, let's say of, you know, revenue over time, I would say, oh, I'll use Tableau.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I'll use Metabase.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I'll use Looker.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I'll use something like that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And the reason I use a tool like that is so I can say, hey, all I have right is the three lines of SQL that are specific to my chart and I'm done.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I don't have to work on the database drivers, the authentication, the authorization, all that crap.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So that's kind of how I think about retools.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think for that reason, tech debt is not that big of a concern.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

But on the second part of your question, I think there are dangers.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think we should walk in with eyes wide open.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think the dangers, I would say, are mostly around...

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

how strong the guardrails are and are people breaking out of the guardrails without the engineers noticing.