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Corey Knowles

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

That's probably the scariest thing, which is if you don't have any guardrails, you can say, hey, I'm going to give you raw SQL access.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

You can do whatever you want to this database.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

That's pretty scary because, you know, I mean, you could drop, I mean, you've probably seen this.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think Replit announced this thing the other day where, I think it was actually Jason Lemkin, who's, you know, big on Twitter.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

He was using Replit and Replit dropped his whole database.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah, that's right.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So I really think the guardrails are really, really critical.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And that's why Retool has invested so much in these kinds of guardrails to make sure that doesn't happen.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So that I would say is the biggest risk is when you don't have guard grids.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think part of it, though, is really on how powerful or abstractive, if you will, the platform is, which is, this is the problem with actually most AppGen platforms, like, like, like the database is that there is no sort of good higher level permissioning system.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And what I mean by that is how this works with Retool, actually, is you can say, hey, this Okta group, so non-engineers, or these 17 Okta groups, you could set up a Retool such that they can never have write access or update access to tables.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so the only thing they can do with Retool is actually build dashboards that read only from your data.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And that's pretty safe.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

When you read data, nothing that bad can happen, basically.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

But that's only possible because you have a platform like Retool that has these abstractions atop of your data.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Whereas if you're just writing raw code with Repl.it and you're kind of just vibing, you know, raw code can do some pretty dangerous things.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so that's why I think actually the safety, if you will, is more important than ever before, because now non-ethers can do more than ever before, but with great power, you know, comes great responsibility.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And so I think that's, yeah, you need a responsible platform that allows you to build those card graphs.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So it's basically something like, actually, the UI is actually not dissimilar to Bolt, Lovewall, Replit, all these Figma make, all these kinds of products, except the product it generates is actually not running raw code.